I want to integrate theses metrics in MaximumTrainer (cycling software), but I heard they are registered to Peaksware LLC.
I was wondering if it is really true, because the terms seem quite generic to be registered.
Anyone had problem using theses metrics? are you forced to link it with Peaksware every time you use the words?
If I need to, I was thinking of adding this on my website:
*Normalized Power(NP), Training Stress Score(TSS) and Intensity Factor(IF) are registered trademarks of Peaksware LLC. *
I want to integrate theses metrics in MaximumTrainer (cycling software), but I heard they are registered to Peaksware LLC.
I was wondering if it is really true, because the terms seem quite generic to be registered.
Anyone had problem using theses metrics? are you forced to link it with Peaksware every time you use the words?
If I need to, I was thinking of adding this on my website:
*Normalized Power(NP), Training Stress Score(TSS) and Intensity Factor(IF) are registered trademarks of Peaksware LLC. *
Thanks in advance!
Yes, TraininigPeaks (as Peaksware, I believe) holds the trademarks to those terms. As for their legal use, this document would presumably answer any questions you might have:
Thanks Mr Coggan! I will make sure to put a link to Peaksware in that case.
You should probably check w/ an attorney to see whether that is sufficient. My understatinding is that TP has gotten far more pro-active in defending their IP rights.
Thanks Mr Coggan! I will make sure to put a link to Peaksware in that case.
You should probably check w/ an attorney to see whether that is sufficient. My understatinding is that TP has gotten far more pro-active in defending their IP rights.
Good to see they are doing something - cause its not development
you would think that they wouldn’t have a problem with maximumtrainer using their formulas considering that maximumtrainer is free software that promotes cycling and accessibility to all. Also, I never knew it was possible to trademark a name for a mathematical formula. someone should trademark the pythagorean theorem.
From another thread… Let me know if you would like an introduction
We do claim trademark for TSS, IF, NP (and others), and they are currently registered internationally. We are actively pursuing US registration. Meanwhile, Garmin, Saris, Trainer Road and several others have publicly acknowledged us as the trademark owner for those terms. We are happy to discuss the use of the terms with anyone, we claim no royalty, simply attribution. Even the next version of Golden Cheetah is using them with permission. The formula for TSS based on power is public knowledge, but it is held as trade secret on how we handle data-gaps and other specific circumstances when applying the formula. We also keep as trade secret the calculations of TSS based on other methods like heart-rate and pace.
From another thread… Let me know if you would like an introduction
We do claim trademark for TSS, IF, NP (and others), and they are currently registered internationally. We are actively pursuing US registration. Meanwhile, Garmin, Saris, Trainer Road and several others have publicly acknowledged us as the trademark owner for those terms. We are happy to discuss the use of the terms with anyone, we claim no royalty, simply attribution. Even the next version of Golden Cheetah is using them with permission. The formula for TSS based on power is public knowledge, but it is held as trade secret on how we handle data-gaps and other specific circumstances when applying the formula. We also keep as trade secret the calculations of TSS based on other methods like heart-rate and pace.
Ah I knew that I’ve seen somewhere that attribution was enough, thanks for sharing!
Let me know if the guys at Peaksware need to contact me for information or anything “max@maximumtrainer.com”
I do. But I also upload to Strava. I use TrainingPeaks for realz and Strava is just for fun. One thing that is cool about Strava is I can see how my time and/or power compares over time against a segment.
