Novel antidoping approach in Kona

Clean protocol. http://cleanprotocol.org/
As far as I know this is a new approach to antidoping and it’s going to be launched in Kona for the Ironman World championship.
http://veloclinic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Invitation-to-Clean-Athletes.pdf
I’m not sure how effective and valid their method is to prove an athlete is clean. It’s not a banned substance test but kind of a “lie detection” method.

The Clean Protocol™ has been designed on advice from a range of experts including PhD’s in pshychology, neuroscience and sports physiology. The system has been meticulously compiled to give the highest level of confidence in the Clean Protocol™ certification.
The Clean Protocol™ is not a lie detector test and doesn’t use polygraph technology. It uses a unique system of 9 levels of multi-tiered verification to deliver the most advanced system of clean sports authentication.

Maybe it’s not the ultimate and definitive test, but anything that fights against doping is welcome. At the moment it’s only open for professional athletes. Many of them are quite vocal against doping but let’s see how many of them go to action and take this test.

What do you think?
I find it interesting that they choose triathlon to launch the Clean Protocol. Maybe Slowtwitch can write an article about this, the validity of the method, reactions of the pro athletes, if they are willing to implement it…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
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What do you think?

I can’t really decipher their market-speak. Is it a biological passport and carbon isotype ratio test or not?

From what I understand, the CADF has testing down to a science at this point. I’m sure if I’m wrong others will chime in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI5wfBVVu6g
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What do you think?

I can’t really decipher their market-speak. Is it a biological passport and carbon isotype ratio test or not?

From what I understand, the CADF has testing down to a science at this point. I’m sure if I’m wrong others will chime in.

Well as the saying goes, if you can’t win them over with facts baffle them with BS…

It looks like basically a vow to be clean coupled with some pseudo science on lying. The real hook seems to be appealing to fans to make this mandatory. That way even if it doesn’t work, presumably the people behind the product get paid regardless, as fans demand that certain associations adopt this “protocol”.

This sounds like complete and total horseshit.

Looks like a joke to me…

This sounds like complete and total horseshit.

yup
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This sounds like complete and total horseshit.

yup

Minor rant - If you can set up a website with (presumably) some sort of hosting, why can’t you take 5 minutes and set up an email address through your domain? Bugs me when a “professional” organization such as this purports to be uses a free gmail/hotmail/other mailbox.

John

Right now they don’t even want my application to pay 100 CHF to prove I’m clean because I’m not a pro or elite athlete.

I might need to post that in the “Cry Like A Little Biatch” thread…

They must not know of email relay or aggregation hahah
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What happens if I don’t pass?
It should be noted that at no stage do we comment or report on any athlete who fails the protocol. Our only advice to athletes who may be currently cheating the rules of sport is to come back clean and take the Clean Protocol. There is no disadvantage for athletes.

This should tell you everything you need to know. Even if they could catch dopers, what’s the point of something that is non-binding?

You sir, shall receive a stern finger wagging. Bad doper, bad!

As a fan from now on I’ll support only Clean Protocol™ athletes and sports.

So I’m out of the fan business for now.

This is a hoax isn’t it?

If you read it it includes psychometric tests where you must get an acceptable score.

That means a clean athlete would be excluded from competing because he scores badly in a dubious test.

It is unethical to force anyone to submit to such a test and anyone who does the test is a bloody fool.

This should tell you everything you need to know. Even if they could catch dopers, what’s the point of something that is non-binding?

You sir, shall receive a stern finger wagging. Bad doper, bad!

Still useful as long as the results are public.

The system is crap, don’t get me wrong. But the voluntary model could have a role in the overall anti-doping strategy.

If some organization wants athletes to voluntarily and publicly commit to a higher standard than required by WADA, I don’t see a problem with that model. Because ultimately the accountability is provided by the mere publicity.

E.g. Astana doesn’t have to skip the Tour of Beijing coming up. They could pull out of the MPCC and race. But then they’d lose what miniscule shred of credibility (don’t laugh) they have with sponsors and fans.

It sounds like some kind of cult:

“Once the Whoabouts™ is disclosed the next step is to also have those persons in their sports entourage take the Clean Protocol™”

I wonder how much it costs to be part of this programme and who is expected to bear the cost of all that? I think the aim is laudable, but the process seems so ridiculously convoluted and opaque from the few details they do give.

Still useful as long as the results are public.

The system is crap, don’t get me wrong. But the voluntary model could have a role in the overall anti-doping strategy.

The voluntary model may work under some instances, particularly where the trust in the sport is lacking or where there is a history of doping.

The thing here is that these results won’t be public so who will know that they’ve failed this test? The dopers?

“Yep, I failed this non-binding non-public test, but still haven’t tested positive through the official channels. Time to up my countermeasures”

Do you have a source that shows that this is being implemented at Kona this year?

Do you have a source that shows that this is being implemented at Kona this year?

I think they are just trotting it out there at Kona. I’m sure it’s not something that athletes there are being
compelled to sign on to.