He barely pulls out a sub 3hr marathon without having to bike or swim.
Even he were in biking shape, he wouldn’t be that much faster if any than Stadler.
He’d get torched.
here we go…again…yet another fascinating thread to come
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Did I miss the thread where people thought he would win Kona or did I just forget about it?
Lavender room please 
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Weren’t you of the opinion that Lance would crush Stadler in a 112 mile time trial?
He will get in touch with Ferrari and his times will drop.
Weren’t you of the opinion that Lance would crush Stadler in a 112 mile time trial?
And that has what to do with winning Kona?
don’t know if he would win it or not but if I say if
he ecided to do it and was serious about it(don’t think he was that serious about nyc marathon more so to raise money etc. heck he bulked up he was talking with folks along the way it’s his first marathon blah blah blah…
IF he were serious and put in the training (probably never wants to do that again) I’d think hed be up there for sure.
Either way we probably won’[t ever know but you can’t say one way or another based on one marathon result…
Most people here follow the logic of
- Lance is the best cyclist ever
- He can destroy any of the triathletes on the bike
- Even if can’t run as well, because he will have such an insurmountable lead after the bike he can coast to victory.
I am of the opinion that:
- Lance is a great cyclist, but Grand Tour riding is a different sport than Ironman.
- Just because someone wins the TdF doesn’t make them the best 112 mi Time Trialer.
- Lance wouldn’t blow away the field on the IM bike.
- Look at the results of previous TdF riders and pro-cyclsist who have done IM races.
- His marathon performance while respectable for most people wouldn’t cut it for an IM
- Hence Lance won’t win.
I am of the opinion that
- maybe less than 1% of the people on this board have ever claimed on this board that lance could win Kona
- Lance was the best TT cyclist when he was riding, of course he would smoke Stadler over a 112 mile TT (w/no swim)
- you like to start topics to draw attention to yourself
None of my posts draw attention to me, but rather interesting hypothetical topics regarding the sport of triathlon.
Whether Lance can win Kona or not is a legitimate and debatable topic. It has nothing to do with me.
I don’t see you responding to the 50+ posts about Lance and the NY Marathon, two things that may be related to triathlon but in actual fact are separate sports entirely.
Most people here follow the logic of
- Lance is the best cyclist ever I think most educated followers would agree Lance is the best TDF rider ever but not the best pure cyclist. 2. He can destroy any of the triathletes on the bike In a bike race, sure.
I am of the opinion that:
- Lance is a great cyclist, but Grand Tour riding is a different sport than Ironman. Agreed, but he would still blow away the field if he chose to. I’m sure he would ride semi-conservatively to avoid a 26 mile walk.
- Just because someone wins the TdF doesn’t make them the best 112 mi Time Trialer. Again, I agree. It does mean that he would probably be the best 112 mile TTer in Kona.
- Lance wouldn’t blow away the field on the IM bike. As I said, I think he would choose not to. **** 4. Look at the results of previous TdF riders and pro-cyclsist who have done IM races. None of them were Lance. Also, weren’t most of them also ‘one off’ Kona racers who never came back? Most previous Kona winners had a learning curve and didn’t set the world on fire first time out.
- His marathon performance while respectable for most people wouldn’t cut it for an IM Agree 100% but he did pretty good for a few months of half assed training (by his admission, if you believe it). I’m sure with a couple years of intelligent training and focus he would improve greatly. If Larsen ran sub 3:00 in an IM…
- Hence Lance won’t win. I agree, Lance will never win Kona, or even take a serious shot at it. But I feel that if he put the effort into it that he is capable of he could be a factor. At 35, he just doesn’t have time to prove us right or wrong.
None of my posts draw attention to me, but rather interesting hypothetical topics regarding the sport of triathlon.
Whether Lance can win Kona or not is a legitimate and debatable topic. It has nothing to do with me.
I don’t see you responding to the 50+ posts about Lance and the NY Marathon, two things that may be related to triathlon but in actual fact are separate sports entirely.
Two separate sports entirely. This brings up your post recently about comparing Beltran and him striking out with Stadler and his flats last year. I will not argue with you so respond however you want. But you come up with some weird comparision.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see what he could have done with serious training? According to some of the anger filled, jealous threads he hadn’t even run further then something like 13 miles, but I am sure those same people will come up with more excuses why Lance is the scourge of mankind…as usual.
I don’t think anyone here thinks he could win at Kona. I certainly haven’t heard anyone say that.
Really,
Nice selective memory people have. I don’t want to burst you bubble, but why don’t you check out this thread, which is one amongst many discussing the point. This is from 2003, and there have been many more that have discussed this since.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=24831;search_string=lance%20and%20kona;#24831
I think you will see that even the illustrious Dev Paul predicted Lance would win Kona. And Dev Paul always thinks he is right.
I don’t think he’d win Kona (unless he decided to train really hard for it and then, we’d still have to see how his legs answer to marathon training…his legs seemed to hurt bad today)…
However, to even suggest he wouldn’t crush any triathlete on the bike is to be completely delusional about our sport.
For info, Lothar Leder showed up to the German TT champs or some race some years back when he was going 4.20+ in Roth (and was crushing Stadler on the bike)…
He got crushed by guys like Erik Zabel that are not even TT specialists. Actually he was saying that he was doing the race and had Zabel come by him while warming up, encouraging him for a few seconds…
That’s the difference between people specializing in multisports and people doing one sport only.
Selective memory? Man, that was 3 years ago!
Anyway,* I* sure as shit never thought that. Besides, that thread you pulled up is from when Lance was at his peak in fitness and popularity. I don’t know that those same people would say that today, even before today’s marathon performance.
That’s the difference between people specializing in multisports and people doing one sport only.
and the difference between a 112 mile TT and a 25-50 miler…not that I disagree with you, though.