No DNF allowed......snowshoeing in the Nevada mtns

This past week, my brother and I did what we had talked about for quite a while…snowshoed up to his cabin in the dead of winter. This cabin is about 90% complete. The most important thing up there is a modern woodburning stove. Water and beer was stored in the basement and dry goods in the cabin. We would pack in the meats, bread, fruit and clothing.

We are both in good condition. I have over 10 years of long course endurance training and my brother is a fitness enthusiast in the mold of what Mark Sisson would recommend. I’m 48 and he is 49. I have been encouraging him to do once every week a longer run. He also switched to boot-running for winter training. Because his mtn. bike was stolen months ago, his fitness training is just running and weights. His long run reached 10 miles early december before the Elk hunt.

Left Vegas Tuesday morning, Feb. 10th. A storm had just blown through and the closest reporting station to my brothers cabin, 8 miles away and slightly higher at 9100 feet, showed 73 inches of snow. We thought, great, we’ll see some real snow. Stopped at the sheriff’s office and checked in so that they would know my truck was going to be parked on the county road where the plowing ends and our hike would begin. My brother’s wife would contact the Sheriff’s office if she had not heard from us by Thursday night.

Started the hike at 1330. Our plan was if the going got too slow by the halfway point, we would bale-out and turn back. I had figured roughly 5 miles total, about 5 hours for the hike. That was one of many miscalculations. Overestimating our abilities too much and underestimating the conditions WAY too much, of which the most critical being the farther the hike progressed, the steeper the terrain and the deeper the snow. I had never been on snowshoes before so I had to be a quick study. Another problem was the weight. Our pack frames were between 50 and 60 pounds. I weigh 165 now (was 167 on Tuesday morning) and my brother weighed 150 then. Plus I was carrying a 9 pound Mauser.

The pace seemed ok. After the first .5 mile, I took over the lead and stayed there the rest of the way. We had to cut through unbroken snow. Leaving the truck, probably had three feet of snow, dry powder. Was shocked at how much I was sinking in every step. Probably total weight on the shoes at 240. After about four hours, my brother complained of hamstrings tightening. Slowed the pace down to 50 steps, then a quick rest, maybe a minute of a forward stretch of the hams, then forward 50 again. Temperature was dropping so had to always keep moving. Fueled up way to little. Took a break before the hike turned away from the road for the steep climb up to the cabin. Was getting dark now. Asked my brother if he wanted to turn back. No, so we went. UP to 45 degree slopes and at times over 6 feet of snow. Brutal. Switch-backed. In order to get a shoe forward, had to bend over to clear the snow away with my mitted hand. One step at a time. Fell occassionaly as a shoe would sink into a air pocket around a burried sagebrush. The heavy pack took you off ballance real easy. If you were on your back, usually had to unbuckle the pack in order to get on your feet. One time I fell and my bother tried to help me from behind. He fell backwards and then had a bad spasm. That was a bad spot we were in. I had cramped up too when I fell so here we are, both laying there in 6 feet of snow on a steep slope at night with the temperature below 10. The other really bad situation was later when we were working through a stand of Fir on a steep slope, my left shoe came off and I sunk to my waist. It was maybe 9 so dark. There was a full moon but for the most part, obscurred by cloud cover. I thought the strap had broken. Fortunately not. It was imperative to get the shoes on your feet or you were stuck, totally.

Long story short…took around 5 hours to cover the last 1.5 miles. Told my brother the only thing that matters is to make it to the cabin. When doesn’t matter. Got to the cabin around 11 at night. Have done 10 IMs plus numerous halfs and OLys. Never DNF’ed. None of those IMs compared to the level of total fatigue I had reaching the cabin.

Cabin temp was 25F. Got the stove going while my brother went to the basement for water and beer. Boots were frozen to my socks and feet. Ice around my socks. Stayed up till 3 in the morning warming up around the stove. After eating and warming up, had some beer. About the best beer I had ever had.

The next day was awesome. Warmed the cabin up to 60. Just static recovery, indoors looking out at the incredible scenery. Thursday did 2.75 hours active recovery on the snowshoes with no pack. Cut a better trail down off the mountain to the road. Returned and packed it further. Amazing the difference between snowshoeing a packed trail versus unbroken snow.

Next time we’ll do things much diferent and smarter. Our mistakes were numerous. Probably the greatest was to put ourselves into a position where a DNF pretty much guarentees death on this earth. Big difference as compared to triathlon races. 9 hours 40 minutes to cover 6.55 miles. The return on Friday took 4 hours 44 minutes.

We take for granted our fitness. Without mine there was no way I could have broken the trail for that distance and time carrying such a load. My bother said that without that boot running the past two months, there was no way he would have made it. On a previous thread I mentioned of one of my base training protocols as being boot running. One guy said it was the supidest thing he had ever heard of. Well, it saved our lives!

Here is the motionbased data for the climb.

February 10th, 2009…the day I was reborn. It’s all gravy now from here on.

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/7618984

Glad it worked out for you. I spent a lot of time snowshoing in Northern Nevada last year. I hated it and I hate Nevada. I Might have to go back soon and your post slapped me in the face with dread.

Probably the greatest was to put ourselves into a position where a DNF pretty much guarentees death on this earth.
Thats the way to do it: throw yourself into a deep, dark hole and see what happens.

the greatest was to put ourselves into a position where a DNF pretty much guarentees death on this earth.

Really cool adventure. I am glad you survived it without injury.

I am a snowshoe neophyte, but once you mentioned weight my first thought was – You have the wrong snowshoes! What was the weight rating on your snowshoes? My guess is that it was not 240lbs+.

Great adventure!


We take for granted our fitness. Without mine there was no way I could have broken the trail for that distance and time carrying such a load.

This reminds me of a road test review I read several years ago about the latest model Porsche 911, a car which had a reputation for being a handful when pushed. The reviewer was commenting on how much the Porsche suspension had improved over the years but noted that in the end, all the improvements just meant you’d just be going alot faster when you finally did lose control and slam into that tree . . . .

Sometimes being really fit just allows you to get yourself into bigger trouble ;-).

Great adventure!


We take for granted our fitness. Without mine there was no way I could have broken the trail for that distance and time carrying such a load.

This reminds me of a road test review I read several years ago about the latest model Porsche 911, a car which had a reputation for being a handful when pushed. The reviewer was commenting on how much the Porsche suspension had improved over the years but noted that in the end, all the improvements just meant you’d just be going alot faster when you finally did lose control and slam into that tree . . . .

Sometimes being really fit just allows you to get yourself into bigger trouble ;-).

Awesome tale! Really enjoyed that read. Glad you guys made it.

Snowshoeing is a lot harder than people give it credit for. I’ve had my adventures on showshoes but they all pale in comparison to yours.

As was already said, wrong snowshoes. No real way for you to know that unless you talked to someone and told them how much weight you’d be carrying.

I’m glad to hear you were able to enjoy yourself after all the effort.

If you have pics please share.

Glad people enjoyed the tale. Adventure. That’s what we all seek as ST’ers. We are different than the norm of this modern society. Perhaps we do push things too far at times but that is really the only way to really test one’s mettle. To find where the edge is.

To answer a couple questions. The snowshoes I used were rated to 250 pounds so I was just under the limit. Again, I had no experience snowshoeing. I assumed one just walks along no problem. That is true once we had broken and groomed a trail for the return off the mountain. That’s like a walk in the park. But on the way up into the deep powder, that was not. My brother was using these shorter and wider “Montana” shoes. The only thing they were good at was grooming an already broken trail. I believe that’s the last time they go anywhere again. Next time we are going to be way smarter. I believe we made just about every mistake possible.

Still have some lingering issues namely my toes are always tingling and cold. In fact have to sleep with socks on. Looks like I will lose the big toe nail on the right foot. Very small price indeed. That was one of those mistakes. Wore relatively light boots. Good for hunting in light snow in October. Not good for “arctic” trekking. Very small price indeed. Speaking of which. If anyone wants to read of probably the greatest tale of survival, then read the book “Endurance”. It is of Ernst Shackleton’s ill-fated Antarctic expedition of 1914. We talked of Shackleton up there.

But like I said, things are looked at differently now. Yesterday did my final long base ride. Went solo because my training buddy had to deal with rental property issues. Long day. Wind and rain. Double flat in the rear. Rear tire was soft from mile 30 on after the last flat. Rode 120. Because of the mechanical issues, in order to beat sunset and to be off the highway back in my neighborhood, from mile 80 to 116, went to half IM TT pace (slight lactic acid burn for two hours). Made it off the highway with 15 minutes to spare. That effort made it sort of epic.

But the ride yesterday was nothing as compared to February 10th.

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/7682783

Will try to oblige with pics. Need to figure out how to paste. The scenery and just to be up there for a couple days made the trek worth it.

Cool story.

I know you didn’t ask for additional suggestions - but here are two that came to mind:

  1. Alcohol inhibits recovery. Especially in semi-hypothermic conditions. What were you thinking?

I once got serious hypothermia in 60-degree weather. I never, ever introduce alcohol into the wilderness experience.

  1. Read Ray Jardine’s book, “Beyond Backpacking” to learn how to reduce your pack weight. It might dramatically increase your enjoyment of backpacking…and, IMHO, reduced pack weight could have made almost as much of a difference here as fitness level.

I have had many winter back country adventures and know that feeling well. Things can go from perfect to sucky in a hurry huh? There is no sag vehicle and giving up is not an option. The experiences have served me well in races when things do not go right.

Good points. We talked about what we brought and were weight reduction could have been made. The most glaring was the fruit! Oranges in particular. I believe we had 10. Plus the same in apples. Plus a 5 pound bag of bananas.

A bushel of fruit!

some apples and bananas next time, but no oranges.

The beer came only once the oven was stoked, we had eaten, and my feet warming in front of the fire. Best beer I must admit I ever had had it seemed (it was only cheap Milwaukee’s Best).

We recovered pretty well. When we first arrived, I told my brother there is NO WAY we’ll make it out and that we will need a snowmobile rescue. The next day, felt better. Just static recovery in the cabin. Amazing how just the most simplest of needs, warmth in the form of a wood burning stove, becomes an object of incredible wonder and thanks. Modern society takes that necessity for total granted. That stove provided for all our needs; warmth, cooking, melting snow for water, drying boots and clothing.

The next day active recovery. Knew then we would have no problem on the return. A well conditioned athlete can recover quick. Ate also the highest quality protein which helped. Elk and venison for three dinners.

Wow. That’s an epic. I was going to harang you for not having a camera but, given the circumstances, heck, I’m just glad you guys made it. This one struck me in particular:

“took around 5 hours to cover the last 1.5 miles”

Amazing. An epic. I’m glad you guys made it.

Ok…figured out how to paste. Sorry, no pics from http://i39.tinypic.com/11tvmys.jpgday 1. That was the last thing on our mind that day. http://i44.tinypic.com/29p7u5d.jpgthe stove stoked well…metal glowing red inside
packing outhttp://i44.tinypic.com/33kt637.jpgmy brother at his gate

http://i43.tinypic.com/vcwgt5.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2r3cxf9.jpgactive recovery…cut the new trail down for the next day out. Behind me is where the last 1.5 miles of day one began. Those sagebrush is where we worked up to get away from the really deep stuff. Nonetheless, on that steep slope, those are the big sage sticking out of three feet snow. http://i39.tinypic.com/2rf58bk.jpgstatic recovery day

Very intense. If you ever race Alcatraz, you’ll have no problem with the sand ladder.

Are those plastic bags and jeans? Oh wow, I can’t even imagine wearing those showshoeing let alone on your trip.

Well…like I said, we made pretty much every mistake possible. Yeah jeans. Because of weight and space, that was all I had to wear. Had in the pack though a jogging suit, socks and house shoes for lounging in the cabin. Boots and the one pair of jeans would be dried by the oven.

Made gaiters out of plastic up at the cabin. They worked great even if I look ridiculous. One of those things where one has to adapt and improvise.

Because of my inadequate boots, for the recovery day, tested out the gaiters and also to prevent further damage, coated my toes with vaseline and between the 2nd and 3rd socks, put a plastic bag on each foot. That too worked well. I had sprayed the boots with water repellent before leaving town but that failed under the conditions. So coated the boots with vaseline as repellent. Like what the trappers did with bear fat, sort of. That too worked. To keep thinking things out and finding solutions. That we did

Also really checked our equipment over up at the cabin. Equipment failure, most importantly a broken snowshoe strap, could be dire indeed. Made sure we always had plenty of rope in case we need to lash a shoe to the boot.

Learned much. Next time will be properly equipped.

Plastic bags were smart as was the Vaseline. Very McGuyver :slight_smile: