Just saw that John updated his website with the new V-Flow MAX, has anyone had a chance to try it out yet? I am on the V-flow Plus and like it, just wondering if this can be much better. Trying to find a saddle that will work out well for Ironman distances, I have been through a lot of them. Lokkd like this could be THE saddle!!
http://www.cobbcycling.com/.../V-Flow_Max_C1P4.cfm
Thanks for any input!
Just put mine on my road bike yesterday. Won’t get to use it until Thursday this week. I will update after that.
Does this not look just like the Adamo but with a piece added to the nose? What would be the real difference between the way you sit on this and the Adamo?
sure does. cut off that tip and looks just like my adamo.
only upside i could see is maybe if the tip is a bit narrower…?
i don’t have issues with the width of the adamo, but i know some do. sometimes i notice the nose width, but not to the point of any trouble…
Not trying to de a critic here, but I ask the question because I am thinking about pulling the trigger on the Adamo and have been waiting for the new Cobb saddle to be released before I took the plunge. The adamo will prob be about $40-$50 cheaper for me to buy and readily available at my LBS.
Not trying to de a critic here, but I ask the question because I am thinking about pulling the trigger on the Adamo and have been waiting for the new Cobb saddle to be released before I took the plunge. The adamo will prob be about $40-$50 cheaper for me to buy and readily available at my LBS.
This saddle “looks” longer than my Adamo (Typhoon), so maybe able you’d be able to sit on a greater variety of points on the saddle, e.g. nose riding. Also I think on the cobbcycling.com John mentions something about a very long saddle rail for positioning flexibility. I’ll bet you could talk or mail John directly and get the real scoop.
I ordered the V-flow max last week. Since I do not have a Paypal account I called Cobb Cycling directly and Ginger Cobb answers the phone! I started asking a few questions and she says “let me put John on the phone.” We talked about 10 minutes and he asked me questions about discomfort I have had in the past, how I ride on my saddle, height and weight, etc… He then recommended the V-flow Max. If you called I am sure he could answer your questions. I have met John in the past and he is a great guy. You can’t beat that kind of customer service anywhere. I am not sure what their return policy is but I think you have a while to change your mind. It was very clear he is interested in feedback good and bad.
I am not sure what their return policy is but I think you have a while to change your mind. It was very clear he is interested in feedback good and bad.
6 month comfort guarantee, no questions asked. Not sure one could ask for more (I do not own a Cobb saddle, but if I needed to change from what I’m using this alone would be a great reason to very strongly consider one)
I’ve had the Plus saddle for almost 4 months, and I like it so far. My Max will arrive today and I’ll see which one I like better, then return the other one 
I’ve just built a bike with the V-flow Plus but haven’t ridden it yet. I’m interested to find out how the Max differs from the Plus? They look the same.
I wish the V-Flows had the hook on the rear of the seat that the Adamo has (but might be patented).
Does this not look just like the Adamo but with a piece added to the nose? What would be the real difference between the way you sit on this and the Adamo?
My suspicion is that the “nose” portion is needed to not violate the patents owned by the ISM folks…but other than that, yeah, the “working” portion appears pretty similar…
Tom A.
Thats a good point, didn’t think of that. I was wondering why the front portion was there, and that is a pretty good reason. I am sure there is some difference in foam or rail length, but all in all they seem to be pretty darn similar. The comfort guarantee is a nice feature.
Tom A.
Thats a good point, didn’t think of that. I was wondering why the front portion was there, and that is a pretty good reason. I am sure there is some difference in foam or rail length, but all in all they seem to be pretty darn similar. The comfort guarantee is a nice feature.
After having some “prostate issues” recently (a bacterial infection…Ouch!) I had purchased an Adamo Road for the TT bike and after trying it out on my road bike as well (and REALLY liking it), was contemplating getting another Adamo Road or a Cobb saddle. To be honest, I was leaning towards one of the Cobb saddles for the road bike just because it looks more “normal”, which, of course, is important for us roadies ;-).
But, I discovered something about the Adamo that has me thinking it’s going to be the one for the road bike. The lack on any sort of nose REALLY makes it easy to adopt the “squatting on the top tube” descending position, without feeling like you’re “trapped” under the nose of the saddle and having to be extra careful when you rise back onto the seat. It’s a kind of cool feature… 
One thing I haven’t seen mentioned in comparing the Adamo to the V-Flow is the transition from the “nose” to the widest part of the rear. This transition is MUCH more gradual on the V-Flow saddles, and they are overall less wide in the rear.
Some people have issues with the rear section of the Adamo digging into the back of their hamstrings when sitting on the rear of the saddle. The shape of the V-Flow should help/solve this issue.
I’d also like to know precisely what the differences are between the Max and the Plus.
Steve
“Flow Max”??? Unfortunate name. Maybe there’s a possibility for some cross-promotional marketing.
Some people have issues with the rear section of the Adamo digging into the back of their hamstrings when sitting on the rear of the saddle. The shape of the V-Flow should help/solve this issue.
Hmmm…that sort of issue sounds to me like they’re not sitting on the saddle properly (i.e. too far back). I don’t even have that problem when using it in my more upright road position. Sitbones are on the prongs at all times…then again, my road hoods position might actually be rotated further forward than some folks’ tri aero positions 
The vflow plus basically kept me in triathlon so I think the world of it! Mr. Cobb was down in Louisiana at Precision Bikes while the owner was nursing some injuries from a crash. I didn’t get to go in and meet him but the word I got was that the Max should be a better choice for longer distance because of the firmer foam and longer rails. Which are two of the complaints of the vflow and vflow plus. I picked the vflow plus over the Adamo because the vflow plus allows for different positions on the saddle. I can get really agressive up on the “nose” without discomfort or sit back and cruise. Man numbness was a problem for me and now my man bits are doing the happy dance with John’s saddles. I consider the vflow plus the single best piece of gear I own so if the Max improved on a few issues of the vflow plus then it’s a sure fire bet for the vast majority.
I currently have an ISM Race on one tri bike and a Max on the other. The Max is noticeably narrow. I am not sure which I like better yet.
Is it too narrow that you are not seating on your seat bones anymore? I tried the Vflow but just didn’t work for me. I’ve used the adamo and while it is very comfortable at first on long rides I end uo getting bad saddle sores. I am debating to try either the new Adamo century or the V max. Please let us know which one you like better…
I’m not sure about the width yet. I think it depends on the person. Form my first rides it felt like I had more pressure on soft tissue versus the ISM. One of the reasons I wanted to try this saddle is because I have had saddle sore problems with the ISM race, I don’t know yet if this will fix that problem or not. I am speculating the sores are caused by the width of the ISM. At present I am not sure which saddle I like better. They each have there strengths and weaknesses. Perhaps as I ride the Max more its weaknesses will diminish for me. It took a while for me to be able to ride the ISM comfortably.