Need 15 watts. Training setup to race setup

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I am looking for 15 watts. Here is my training setup

I ride a P2C. Here is what I am changing from training

Training

  • Box rims. Not aero. Not deep
  • Inexpensive tires
  • Biking shorts. Relatively loose shirt
  • Inexpensive non-aero helmet
  • Regular mounted water bottle

Racing

  • HED 3C front. Renn disk in back
  • Looking at purchasing Bontrager Race X Lite Pro tires. 19mm in front with 3C
  • Tri outfit
  • LG Rocket TT helmet
  • HydroTail

I will be racing at Florida HIM which I understand is really flat.

Do the difference between training and racing get me 15 watts? I did a full HIM+ on Saturday and did 200 watts avg which was 20.5mph but had to turn around every 2.25 miles.

I know it is hard to tell without knowing exact course, etc. But is it in the ball park.

Also there was a site that listed wattage for helmet, wheels, etc. I can’t find the link. Does anyone know the link?

Thanks for any help.

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throw in some latex tubes and you’re probably not too far off.

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turn around every 2 something miles?! That must have sucked! I would rather be on a trainer…maybe.

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Wattage cannot be bought in any way. Aero gear can though, which will net you a time savings just like wattage gives you time savings.

200w on your P2C and 200w on my old schwin, is still 200w.

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Wattage cannot be bought in any way. Aero gear can though, which will net you a time savings just like wattage gives you time savings.

200w on your P2C and 200w on my old schwin, is still 200w.

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Dude, if you find 15 watts let me know. I’m looking for some too.

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I totally dig your methodical and creative ways.

What system are you using to measure power?

PS: Drop the hydrotail for the race. Plenty to drink on the course.

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Ok. I did not say it how I meant. I need to find .5 - 1 mph. I view it as an efficiency improvement of 15 watts. I am hoping

  • Rocket helmet will give me the same speed but require 6 watts less
  • HED C3 and Disk. Similiar 6 watts less
  • Tri outfit, tires 3 watts less

So I guess I should have said finding a savings of 15 watts while producing the same speed. So I need to find an improvement in efficiency of 15 watts.

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A skinsuit will most likely allow you to ride 15watts less to average the same speeds you are talking about. Even if the skinsuit is only a 10w savings the wheels and helmet will get you there. A skinsuit, aero frame and aero helmet saved me 125 seconds over a 10 mi TT with very similar conditions and identical power.

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Helmet alone gives you most of that. My drag improvement in going from training kit to race would give you a little under 1mph at 200W. You likely will get a bit more improvement than me as I’m picking your head is a lot further in the air.

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Ok. I did not say it how I meant. I need to find .5 - 1 mph. I view it as an efficiency improvement of 15 watts. I am hoping

  • Rocket helmet will give me the same speed but require 6 watts less
  • HED C3 and Disk. Similiar 6 watts less
  • Tri outfit, tires 3 watts less

So I guess I should have said finding a savings of 15 watts while producing the same speed. So I need to find an improvement in efficiency of 15 watts.
You should gain .5-1mph by not having to turn around every 2.5 miles.

Just crush it, dude. You’ll be fine. But don’t forget to eat and don’t draft.