Moving to Dallas, TX. What to expect?

Agree with Spranger - there’s good and bad in every city. I was born and raised here, have left several times to live in other cities (both domestically and internationally) but always come back. Dallas is home and I think I’m here to stay. At a high level Dallas has several things going for it:

  1. Low cost of living - there’s still a lot of value here as compared to other cities.

  2. Good public schools - sure, a few crappy ones but overall very good.

  3. Nice people.

  4. Decent weather- hot summers but winters are mild and short compared to many cities (by the way, it’s in the 80s and sunny here today!)

In summary, I have always said that Dallas is “ugly but easy”. Geographically, it’s ugly but it’s very easy to live here. Life is easy so I get to focus on family and training.

As others have said, the multi-sport community is good (no Austin or San Diego, but hey). Come on down and let us know when you get here!

Awhh, c’mon…it’s not that bad. From what I’ve seen on the Weather Channel (and hear from my recently relocated sister) the weather in Houston hasn’t been all that great lately either. :wink:

Anyways, I just got back from an easy 20 mile ride (hey, I’m still post-IM) in gorgeous 75 degree temps with fallen leaves blowing across the roads and the smell of autumn in the air. :slight_smile: It was actually enjoyable!

Almost made me forgot those dog days of summer…almost.

G
Last Winter was great here. Mostly 60s-90s. I was using my A/C a good part of December. I hate cold weather, and I spent about 12 years of my life in Michigan for the experience. Once it dips below 60, it’s time to bundle up on the bike! Great for running though. Dallas isn’t as bad as Houston in the summer with the humidity, but still the moist heat affects performance, especially running. The only bad weather of late in Houston has been rain. Last weekend many of us were actually complaining as it was low 60s. We were all thinking fondly of the summer heat. To me, Houston only has mid-June to mid-September as the nasty part of the year. Dallas has that plus 1-3 months in the winter. Just wait for a good old ice storm up there.

Had one of them last winter…it truly did SUCK!

Who knew roads could get so slippery?

I spent 20 years driving in mountain snow and never saw anything like it.

I’ll admit I was thinking today…only 4 months till it gets good again…

G

Ironhead Productions puts on good races there. Be prepared to pass alot of guys riding on very expensive bikes. I believe it was stated before but I’ll say it again be glad you’re so close to Austin.

The Lakewood Landing, an upscale dive. the greatest bar ever. It is my favorite place to veg. Great beer, great juke box, no one dancing on bars. Nothing close to a meat market seen. Don’t order a Cosmo or some girly drink. They will ask you to leave. If you can’t drink like a man have your wife order one for you.

Welcome to Texas! Seconds to most of the info already posted, but wanted to put a plug in for NE Tarrant County (Right next to DFW Airport - Grapevine, Southlake, Colleyville, etc…). Depending on where in Dallas you office, it might stretch your 30 minutes a bit but it’s got a lot going for it. If you have kids, schools are great. Closer to good rides than Dallas (From my front door I can get in a 60 miler around Lake Grapevine or 75 around Eagle Mountain Lake). Home values better. Developing social scene re: restaurants/clubs/stuff to do. It’s the 'burbs, but I like the quality of life.

So true!

I attended an Ironhead race out at Joe Pool…helping drag folks out of the water…and was simply blown away by the high dollar gear coming into T2 with less than competitive bike splits…'spensive bikes…disc wheels…aero helmets…the whole nine yards…probably averaging <18mph.

I’ve been to some big, competitive races in my day and I’ve never seen so much bling.

What’s up with that?

G

I work in downtown Dallas too, and we live in East Dallas/Lakewood, very close to White Rock Lake. Like someone mentioned upthread, your decision factor will be schools. Tell us whether or not you need to consider schools, and I can give you better advice re: locations.

So true!

I attended an Ironhead race out at Joe Pool…helping drag folks out of the water…and was simply blown away by the high dollar gear coming into T2 with less than competitive bike splits…'spensive bikes…disc wheels…aero helmets…the whole nine yards…probably averaging <18mph.

I’ve been to some big, competitive races in my day and I’ve never seen so much bling.

What’s up with that?

G
That’s Dallas for you. Like I said - pretentious. Had a brother-in-law almost file for bankruptcy because his wife wanted to keep up with the Joneses. He did the honorable thing and took on the debt. He also did the right thing and dumped the wife.

“That’s Dallas for you. Like I said - pretentious. Had a brother-in-law almost file for bankruptcy because his wife wanted to keep up with the Joneses. He did the honorable thing and took on the debt. He also did the right thing and dumped the wife.”

Oh my God, I feel compelled to defend the Metroplex - its time to move. And that doesn’t happen in Houston?

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My parents live in Dallas and I spent a couple of weeks out there at Christmas two years ago. The riding sucked, terrible roads, lots of traffic, and stoplight after stoplight or mini crits through neighborhoods. The running would be good if you like running through neighborhoods, i prefer trails. I’m sure there are plenty of masters swim programs. I haven’t been back to Dallas since then. If training and racing are a quality of life you enjoy I’d look at a different location, no job is worth sacrificing your quality of life.

You could do a whole lot worse than Dallas…like Houston, the armpit of Texas (I’ve lived in both places so I can say that).

There are good places to ride out south and west of town. Very rural with some fairly steep hills too in some places, not like Austin, but close. Plus the weather allows year round riding, compared with Michigan. Lots of races and club scene as well as pools and fairly clean lakes. Not alot of trails for running compared with other cities, but thats just how the cookie crumbles.

Like I said, it could be worse…

I know Dallas well because I was there frequently for a couple of years. Here’s what it’s like with “outsider eyes” but an “insider knowledge”:

Dallas is very status-minded in most people above the blue-collar: status in looks, jobs, social, any appearance possible. My personal opinion )coming from the East) is that the Dallas men subjugate women, often ignoring them completely; but the women tend to get really strong after about age 45 (maybe because they’ve been squashed for so long? Dunno). Older men are very gallant, polite, and kind.

There’s nothing downtown but the buildings; not much in people.

If you move to the Oaklawn area (a mere 10 minutes down a main road to downtown, as this area is considered Uptown) you’ll find some great apartments (seek the Post apartments - there are many to choose from) and many trendy shops, clubs, and restaurants. This is a liveable area which is walkable and quite safe-feeling. It’s the gay area of town, so it’s rather artsy also. There’s a running path which winds through the area (The Katie Trail) that you may like also.

There are some very old apartment buildings are are located not far from downtown; some of these apartments are very big (I visited a friend in one) and the elevator gets off at each apartment. I was even on one of the best deck ever – which overlooked the neon of downtown. Really cool if you like this stuff.

Lakewood is a cool area also accessible to downtown - I like the little tudor houses, shady trees, and 1920’s feel. It’s a little ‘funkier’ (Dallas is not funky/artsy) and probably a nice area for a little house.

There are several more areas that I never hung out in. I don’t party, so hanging out in Deep Ellum or McKinney areas (where the bars are) didn’t do anything for me. Greenwood (I think that’s the name) is another party area. I did go to an art movie theatre a couple of times.

Plano is where Lance is from. It’s only the burbs/exurbs, but there’s an interesting park where I’ve been Mtn-biking— in the closest thing to Mtn-biking that Dallas has.

There’s a lake called White Rock Lake which is 11 mi loop, and has a great dog park there also.

There are many “gyms” of all sorts. Dallas people like their bodies (as you may be able to tell by the plastic surgery around). So the gyms are usually well-equipped, even the small ones. LOTS of gyms. Lots of tanning places. Lots of runners. Many places to run, too.

The Whole Foods stores are well-stocked and even has a butcher inside. You can get grass-fed beef in many places across Dallas. The food is pretty good across Dallas because Dallas people like to go out, and many of them have money.

Yes, it’s hotter than hell and all the indoor spaces are colder than Antarctica :slight_smile: I used to wear a sweater all the time in the hottest of days. But biking or running should be done far from the heat of the day.

In general, it’s a fairly pretty city and rather clean, but the social scene, the people, and the prevailing attitudes are what you need to also watch over.

Oh my God, I feel compelled to defend the Metroplex - its time to move. And that doesn’t happen in Houston?

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Not to the same degree. Hey, I love Fort Worth. Down to earth place. But Dallas? Or Plano or Frisco? Gives me the willies. To think I have to go there next weekend to visit the folks.

BTW, for riding I am so spoiled by my situation in Houston. I live 15 minutes from downtown yet as soon as I turn out of my subdivision, some 90 seconds on the bike, I’m on rural roads. I can go anywhere from 20-100+ miles with only one stoplight. Visited the parents last year and did the RBM ride out of the Campbell location. Freaking 45-60 minutes of traffic lights, 20 minutes of uninterrupted riding, and another 45-60 of those same traffic lights.

Sure the Houston weather sucks in the summer, the ozone is usually at unhealthy levels, we seem to be near the top in crime, the mosquitos are as big as birds, bats are becoming a health issue, and it floods. But hey, I can’t beat my riding situation.

“Older men are very gallant, polite, and kind.”

Yes I am. :slight_smile:

And how come you haven’t stopped by my store to say “Hi”?

G

If you live north of Dallas in the burbs there are some great places to ride. Lots of farm roads with rolling terrain. I grew up in Grand Haven and moved here (Allen-North Dallas) about 8yrs ago. You never really get used to the summers but you learn to adapt. Pretty active running and tri area. Huge biking area in North Dallas. Richardson has one of the largest bike stores in the US. Housing is much cheaper than Michigan, but they are not built as well either.

"Dallas men subjugate women, often ignoring them completely; "

Not fair at all. You didn’t live there so you probably only dealt a select group of people. I can go anywhere and find a group in any society that is bad.

Not to the same degree. Hey, I love Fort Worth. Down to earth place. But Dallas? Or Plano or Frisco? Gives me the willies. To think I have to go there next weekend to visit the folks.
See, there’s your problem. You are extrapolating Plano and Frisco across Dallas. Come down to Lakewood/East Dallas, and we’ll show you laid-back Dallas! I don’t disagree that Dallas has more than its fair share of posers and plastic people, but it’s actually pretty easy to insulate yourself from all that, especially if you live in the city and not the suburbs. And hey, those kinds of people always add great entertainment value.

My wife and I live in East Dallas, about 3 blocks from Downtown. I think they’re calling it near east Dallas or something goofy like that now. We have a great view from our rooftop deck onto the downtown skyline.

Like everyone else has said, riding can be sketchy. I either ride down Swiss Ave to White Rock Lake and do mindless loops around the 10 mile road, or ride south east out into Mesquite and the surrounding tiny ass towns. There are lots of country roads with not much else besides other cyclists out there.

There are also several bike shops that have group rides on the weekends, and Greater Dallas Bicylists have several rides during the week all over the Metroplex.

There is a very active tri community. Playtri is pretty much the only one that is right in Dallas, the others are more in the burbs (Fit2Train, Dallas Athletes). Ahmed is a top notch guy and coach; pretty much regarded as the best in the area. They’ve just started up a new club that offers group workouts, for those not coached individually by him.

Neither of us are originally from Dallas, but it made since for us to be here job wise and geographically. We can fly anywhere easily. And the weather is awesome; makes year round training very easy.