Pretty much any movie with a relatively torrid sex scene is guaranteed to be rated NC-17 in the US. That means, you’re not 17, you’re not seeing it. Period.
Hostel II is rated R. Which means, if you want to take your 8yo kid, it’s fine.
What gives? Sex is not fine, but violence and torture is?
What gives? Sex is not fine, but violence and torture is?
Wild West Culture. Welcome to America.
I would say this is one of the fundamental difference between American and European cultures.
I don’t rmember the number … but the number of (on TV and in video games) murders/violent-acts a typical American teen sees by the age of 15 is staggering. We are desynthesized to violence … unless of course someone kicks a dog on screen … then we raise hell.
The porn industry earnings suggest that Americans love nudity, sex, etc … but don’t admit it publically.
The use the latest “buzz word”, nudity is America’s buggaboo (if that’s how it’s even spelled). I found myself feeling this while watching the movie 300. I can’t even remember how many brutal, bloody, on screen killings I saw … but I was actually a bit shocked to see some booby. You don’t see “the girls” that much on screen. When you do, it’s almost pointless nudity just for the sake of having some in the flic.
remember Janet Jacksons Juggie?
The “funniest” thing about America’s hang-up with nudity is what we allow that’s not “nudity”. For example, a girl wearing a bikini that exist of a shoustring and a nickel covering each nipple, and a shoestring running over her “privates” and between her rear-cheeks is fine (swimsuit editions, men’s magazines, fitness mags, etc) … but show some aerola, and good gracious, a nipple … and folks go berzerk (adult mags).
I understand the outcry over Janet Jackson’s nipple exposure because that happened during one of the most watched events … The Super Bowl … and not necessarily a place where one would expect to see that. Plus, there was also the other factor of a young man reaching over and ripping off part of a woman’s dress, which sends the completely wrong message to every young man watching on tv. If the same thing happened on an HBO Janet Jackson concert, you wouldn’t heard near as much.
perhaps if Americans were exposed to more frequent nudity and sex, it wouldn’t seem so taboo and dirty, and our collective intellectualism will rise about that of a 6-year-old. until then, we will go on using lame words like ‘booby’ and ‘juggie.’
it wouldn’t seem so taboo and dirty
LIke most other social issues, sexuality gets less taboo and dirty with each generation. I think we can look at the sexuality and expression of sexuality in younger females (14-20) of this generation and see that those taboos are rapidly declining. What would be shameful and embarassing during my youth is now not that big of a deal. One generation.
I’d be willing to bet they still have lame slang words for breasts even in European countries where sex isn’t so taboo.
My point is that Americans seem to have a hard time talking about sex and the human body in a very mature way. We have to make up words to cover up our discomfort for something that is totally normal and natural.
We have to make up words to cover up our discomfort for something that is totally normal and natural.
Really?
Using words like intercourse, penis, vagina, breasts, etc sure seem to create a LOT less attention/offensiveness than screwing, schlong, pussy, tits, etc … and you can use the former in everyday adult conversation without raising an eyebrow.
Most of the “cover up” words seem to be used while in the presence of kids, for fun (some of them are hilarious), and to avoid the vulgar terms.
My kids call their genitalia “their privates”, and that’s the terminology we use at school.
We use a LOT of “everyday/slang/creative” words in place of technical, medical, formal vocabulary. It’s not restricted to sexual context.
OK… then why do people make up words for things that already have perfectly good names?
We don’t make up alternate words for elbows, knees, eyes… If people felt comfortable saying “penis,” wouldn’t they just say that? But I don’t want to start a whole ‘Vagina Monologues’ here… this is kinda getting away from the OP.
Vulcanize the whoopee stick
In the ham wallet
Cattle prod the oyster ditch
With the lap rocket
Batter dip the cranny ax
In the gut locker
Retrofit the pudding hatch
Ooh la la
With the boink swatter
If i get you in the loop when
I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I brazillian wax poetic
So hypothetically
I don’t wanna beat around the bush
Foxtrot Unifrom Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Marinate the nether rod
In the squish mitten
Power drill the yippee bog
With the dew piston
Pressure wash the quiver bone
In the bitch wrinkle
Cannonball the fiddle cove
Ooh la la
With the pork steeple
If i get you in the loop when
I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I brazillian wax poetic
So hypothetically
I don’t wanna beat around the bush
Foxtrot Unifrom Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
pronto
~Matt
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Pretty much any movie with a relatively torrid sex scene is guaranteed to be rated NC-17 in the US. That means, you’re not 17, you’re not seeing it. Period.
Hostel II is rated R. Which means, if you want to take your 8yo kid, it’s fine.
What gives? Sex is not fine, but violence and torture is?
Why would you take an 8 year old to an R-rated movie?
I sure wouldn’t…but I’ve seen it…more than often.
I don’t know for you but hearing tits makes me more horny than hearing breasts.
Intercourse has absolutely zero sexiness to it…It’s a ‘tue l’amour’…I rank it at the same level as keeping your socks on. ‘hey hon, how about a sexual intercourse?’…bah…
“OK… then why do people make up words for things that already have perfectly good names?”
Because the normal names for these things have a decidely more clinical or scientific feel. What we describe using the slang terms is not the same as what we describe using the clinical terms.
“We don’t make up alternate words for elbows, knees, eyes”
Actually, we have slang terms for lots of thing besides just sex organs. Eyes are “peepers,” a head is a “noggin” or “melon,” a mouth is a “trap”, etc, etc.
Forget American movies, even the best made ones still exist within the confines of American culture. I have been enjoying going through the foreign movie section of Blockbuster - focusing on French movies so far, but planning to strike out to other nationalities as well. Notable French movies were Amelie and Etre et Avoir.
Come to find out, my dad has also been on a foreign movie kick of late. He gave me a Thai martial arts movie which has some cool fight scenes…
Let me guess…Ong Bak, the Thai warrior? If it’s not this one, you should see it (available in most blockbusters)…really cool…and I get my share of international movies…
Try, a very long engagement with audrey tautou, merry christmas (guillaume canet), love me if you dare (also guillaume canet)
easy 3 word answer: the porn industry.
Are you saying that the porn industry is where we get our cues about what words are acceptable to use?
I was thinking about this last night, and there are definitely words that i wouldn’t use b/c they have some kind of negative connotations in my mind. i don’t think i’m prude… but i hate the words ‘sntch,’ and 'cnt.’ but would i use the word ‘p*ssy’ in the bedroom… sure. not sure why there’s a difference, but there is.
No, I think that the porn industry needs various descriptions for the important anatomical parts for variety. Let’s face it, what little dialogue there is in porn would get old quick if all you could say was “Oh baby, I love how your penis feels …”, well you get the point. Do we get our clues from there? I don’t know, but the slang has to start somewhere. Rap maybe?
FYI, my answer was partially tongue-in-cheek, but I do think there is some truth to it. You are right on the “c” word though, it is definitely an insult and not a way to otherwise describe that particular body part.