I love my Adamo except for the fact it tears my inner creases up and blisters the heck out of me even with chamois creme. I’ve tried using a zip tie to try and decrease the width. I’ve tried moving if forward, moving it backwards, up, down, you get the idea. I think it might be time to take a shot at something else.
Looking for something with similar padding as the Adamo and similar feature on the nose to decrease the numbness effect.
Any suggestions for something as close to Adamo as possible?
You will fall in love with Cobb’s V-Flow seats. I am sure they will solve your problem.
Sergio
Which Adamo did you use?
The race version has very minimal padding, while the road version has a bit more, and the typhoon is supposed to be pretty soft. Assuming you used the race, you might want to try one of the softer ones, as long as you like the design.
Otherwise, I hear John Cobb’s saddles a really nice.
Have you been using the v-flow or the v-flow plus? If both, which would you recommend and why?
Thanks very much
Have you been using the v-flow or the v-flow plus? If both, which would you recommend and why?
Thanks very much
I have not personally, but my son has ridden a V-Flow Plus for the last two months for at least 4,000 km. He says that it is the most comfortable seat he has ever ridden. Maybe too comfortable for him :). He really is used to ride without a problem triple digit distances a day 6 - 7 days a week on an ultra light Selle Italia SLR and he has never complained but he can feel the comfort difference when riding longer distances on the V-Flow Plus.
Now if we are talking about riding on the aerobars, the V-Flow is a necessity. I have already warned Sergio Jr. that I want to be a grand parent one of these days, so I would rather much prefer him riding the V-Flow on the road than anything else. The V-Flow is not a heavy seat but saving a few grams going to an ultra light seat is definitelly IMO not worth it, not even on a climbing stage. I think John Cobb will come out with a weight-weenie version sooner or later for those obsessed with lighter seats.
I have used the Adamo Race a few times (even on my MTB) and the Adamo Road. They are great seats, but I think that the V-Flow is a step ahead. It is also a much more stable seat on the long term structurally speaking. Perhaps the only thing the Adamo has as an advantage over the V- Flow is that it makes it easier to pass the UCI 5cm-behind the bb-rule but I guess that is a worry only for very few here.
The 180 day warranty is also a good sign that John is very confident about his seat. This is also good if you take into account that most people need more than a few days to completely adapt to a new seat. The Adamo is a good example of a very good seat that can leave you feeling bad if you try it just for a ride as a test, but once you get used to it, you suddenly realize that it was worth the change.
Best wishes,
Sergio
Maybe the selle smp line?
http://www.sellesmp.com/en/default.htm
I have to agree with everyone else. The V-Flow Plus is an awesome saddle, I can confirm the “almost too comfortable” statement.
I believe the difference in the std and plus, is the plus has a little extra relief at the front of the saddle, certainly works. When I got the saddle I couldn’t wait to try it out and jumped on the bike in jeans, instantly comfortable even in the aero position.
Money very well spent, and the service was excellent as well.
Thanks guys. Just ordered a V-flow plus and I’m looking forward to trying it out later this week. Cobb has already shipped it out. I too like the idea of a 180 day guarantee. It also comes with tools for adjustment and a DVD of how to set it up…not sure why all the bells and whistles but we’ll see.
It’s weird because the Adamo for a lot of people has been a love or hate relationship, not much middle ground. It’s just been ok for me. Great for somethings (numbness and padding), not so great for others (width and saddle sores).
I love my Adamo except for the fact it tears my inner creases up and blisters the heck out of me even with chamois creme. I’ve tried using a zip tie to try and decrease the width. I’ve tried moving if forward, moving it backwards, up, down, you get the idea. I think it might be time to take a shot at something else.
Looking for something with similar padding as the Adamo and similar feature on the nose to decrease the numbness effect.
Any suggestions for something as close to Adamo as possible?
What is it about this saddle that you like? It sounds like it’s failing miserably.
-The main issue with the Adamo type saddle is that they are very short, and offer two small prongs for you to sit on. While there may not be pressure on your ‘taint’ there is heaps more pressure on the two little points that all the rest of your weight sits on.
-Also when you come to a climb, change efforts etc, as the Adamo has only one spot that you can sit, you are unable to change positions to optimize muscles for the new task, or get in more aerodynamic position. This results in quicker fatigue of your leg muscles, and more stress on your back/ shoulders.
-Finally the next time you are cornering quickly check out what your legs are doing… To give you the answer your inner thighs will be pushing on the nose of your saddle helping to stabilize, and lean your bike into the corner.
To the best of my knowledge Specialized is the only company which has build a cutout saddle that is actually functional. You may still have to tip the nose slightly down, but you’ll find that it’s cutout actually works (tested fact).
Nat
Do you have an idea of the weight of the v-flow plus?
edit: oops, just found it 275gm.
I love my Adamo except for the fact it tears my inner creases up and blisters the heck out of me even with chamois creme. I’ve tried using a zip tie to try and decrease the width. I’ve tried moving if forward, moving it backwards, up, down, you get the idea. I think it might be time to take a shot at something else.
Looking for something with similar padding as the Adamo and similar feature on the nose to decrease the numbness effect.
Any suggestions for something as close to Adamo as possible?
What is it about this saddle that you like? It sounds like it’s failing miserably.
-The main issue with the Adamo type saddle is that they are very short, and offer two small prongs for you to sit on. While there may not be pressure on your ‘taint’ there is heaps more pressure on the two little points that all the rest of your weight sits on.
-Also when you come to a climb, change efforts etc, as the Adamo has only one spot that you can sit, you are unable to change positions to optimize muscles for the new task, or get in more aerodynamic position. This results in quicker fatigue of your leg muscles, and more stress on your back/ shoulders.
-Finally the next time you are cornering quickly check out what your legs are doing… To give you the answer your inner thighs will be pushing on the nose of your saddle helping to stabilize, and lean your bike into the corner.
To the best of my knowledge Specialized is the only company which has build a cutout saddle that is actually functional. You may still have to tip the nose slightly down, but you’ll find that it’s cutout actually works (tested fact).
Nat
Nat - you pretty much nailed it. Inner thighs are getting eatn alive. I can tolerate it and have done a few HIM and one IM on it, but figure while it’s early in the season I’d start trying something different so I wouldn’t have to battle the soreness 50-60 miles into my ride.
I did try using my stock saddle that came with my P2C, but it was like sitting on a brick. I’ve also tried the Profile Design Try Styke, but it didn’t do the job either. I like the design of the Cobb saddle so we’ll see. I haven’t seen the specialized saddle, which one are you referring to as I’ll check out anything at this point?
I also tried an Adamo and switched to the V-flow (blackwell flow when they were sold by Blackwell). I had the same problems as you with the Adamo. Numbness was gone but it was way too wide. I ride, and run for that matter, with my legs really close together so it just did not work. The V-flow is a much much much narrower saddle and can agree with the others you will most likely love it.
Thanks very much for the detailed reply, much appreciated.
Lots of positive feedback from everyone. I’ll wait until John releases his new saddles in late April then pick up the one that suits best.