I have been training in Mizuno Wave Riders and have found that 300 miles is a good point for me to retire them. Nearly ever nick or injury has occurred in shoes older than 300 miles.
I have been racing everything less than 26.2 in Mizuno Ronins.
How many miles do you guys get out of racers/flats (compared to what you get out of trainers).
I put 400-450 on my Brooks Ravennas (depending if I can get to the store that week).
So far haven’t retired a pair of flats, but I’ve got something like 30 on my ProGrid A4’s and 15 on my NB whatever-they’re-called - the orange and blue light trainers.
I run exclusively in flats, or “minimalist shoes” as some call them. I have gotten 1400 miles out of a pair of Vibram Fivefingers. It is my experience and from what I generally see, the less shoe you start with, the longer it lasts.
Longevity in shoes also depends on YOU as well. Your weight is a factor. Also how much your shoe moves after contact with the ground will also influence how long the shoe lasts. etc
Build quality is also important. I feel Saucony Hattories and Mizuno Wave Universe 3s have cheaper/less of an upper than most shoes, and will wear out faster.
I’m 5’7" and between 145 and 137 depending on what part of season it is. I don’t think I have perfect running mechanics, but have improved gradually over a few years.
Ronins seem to be a little more than a flat and a little less than a trainer (in substance), so I am not sure how to judge, I guess if they still feel good, I will keep on them for a while longer (will see what they feel like at 300).
I run in Brooks (Ravenna’s, Cadence, Launch, Flow, ST5 and T7). Aside from the new ProjectPure shoes I’m good until about 350 miles. At 350 miles I start to notice I’m more achey and get minor injuries.
For the the T7’s I’ve only put 30 miles on them but will increase that this year as they’re going to be my go-to shoe for brick runs.
I run exclusively in flats, or “minimalist shoes” as some call them. I have gotten 1400 miles out of a pair of Vibram Fivefingers. It is my experience and from what I generally see, the less shoe you start with, the longer it lasts.
Longevity in shoes also depends on YOU as well. Your weight is a factor. Also how much your shoe moves after contact with the ground will also influence how long the shoe lasts. etc
Build quality is also important. I feel Saucony Hattories and Mizuno Wave Universe 3s have cheaper/less of an upper than most shoes, and will wear out faster.
x2, minus the Vibrams part…I just go with my Lunar Racers for the road or Montrail Rogue Racers for trail/winter/bad roads, and it’s worked well the past 10 months. I couldn’t find my clunky trainers one day, so I threw on the flats and haven’t looked back. Every now and again, I’ll wear an old pair of trainers I have somewhere lying around and I suddenly find that my form goes to hell and sometimes I’ll feel pain where I otherwise don’t.
FWIW, I’ve been on the same set of Montrails and Lunar Racers, and each probably have in the 700 mile-ish range, and I’m 185 lbs. I don’t plan on getting new ones until I lose the tread.
350 seems low unless you are a heavier runner. Do you rotate shoes at all? I run nearly every day, but I try to not wear the same pair more than 2 days in a row. It helps the cushion in the shoe recover some of its shock absorbing properties, so your shoes will last longer.
I’m currently running in the Brooks PP Flow exclusively. I train and race in the same shoes. FWIW, I was getting 700-750 miles out each pair of Brooks Launch, but not sure about the Flow yet. I just ran in them until I noticed my knees getting a little achy (no cartilage in one). Always have two pair of the same kind in rotation until I switch models, then one and one. I’m probably on the high end for mileage.
I run in Brooks Green Silence and just brought my pair that has around 700 miles on them to a well respected running store. They looked at them and said they were in perfect shape to keep using. In my previous experience, the tops of these minimal shoes wear out faster than the bottom, ie. rips or pulls in the fabric.
I had a pair of VFFs and didn’t keep track of miles, but estimate it was in the 1000-1500 mile range before holes showed up. I ran through the rubber on a pair of Merrel Trail Gloves in less than 200 miles and returned them. Currently on a pair of NB MT20s, somewhere in the 300 mile range and the tread is starting to wear down a bit but there is plenty of life yet. Have a pair of Kinvaras on the way too and looking forward to seeing how they feel and hold up.
500 to 600 in Wave Riders worn until the sole is starting to wear through. Those shoes do seem stiffer over 300 miles but seem to roll better.
Near 200 miles on Lightweight shoes, Fastwitch, A4, K-Ruuz
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