We are the people Orbea is paying him to market to. Someone should give an explanation (him or Orbea), it would be better from him though.
Right. Orbea is paying him. you aren’t. It’s between him and Orbea.
Can we talk about how fit he is and how he is going to win in Kona?
sure, start your own thread about how fit craig is.
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
He doesn’t owe you an explanation. The only people he owes an explanation to is Orbea.
Well, sort of does…with his endorsement of Orbea, I’m sure that on some level it may have influenced purchase decisions. To jump ship while under contract and while his image appears as a sales tool directed to the public does require a statement of some nature.
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
He doesn’t owe you an explanation. The only people he owes an explanation to is Orbea.
Well, sort of does…with his endorsement of Orbea, I’m sure that on some level it may have influenced purchase decisions. To jump ship while under contract and while his image appears as a sales tool directed to the public does require a statement of some nature.
Personally speaking of course. If people are buying bikes based on who rides that bike…well, I guess nothing I say can help them or make them feel better.
. CA has a history of being a class act - anyone dispute that?
Maybe, I know people always say that but I don’t know if its true, or how a fan would know if it is true.
At the same time people always say Macca is a prick but I kind of get the feeling he is, in fact, a class act.
. CA has a history of being a class act - anyone dispute that?
Maybe, I know people always say that but I don’t know if its true, or how a fan would know if it is true.
At the same time people always say Macca is a prick but I kind of get the feeling he is, in fact, a class act.
And until last weekend, I would have agreed that CA has always been a “class act.”
But sticking it to his “lifetime” sponsor on one of the biggest stages in the sport was not a “class act.”
Regardless of reasons / driving factors to make the switch, it was handled poorly and unprofessionally, IMO.
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
He doesn’t owe you an explanation. The only people he owes an explanation to is Orbea.
Agreed.
The one thing nobody touches on is that for Crowie to sign on for the rest of his career, there must have been assurances that their new superbike would be ready soon. If that’s in his contract or not, who know, but still a breach of trust in Orbea’s ability to delivery a bike that can perform.
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
I lost a ton of respect for that dude on Sunday after 70.3 worlds. We were at our hotel sitting not 10 feet away from his table and all we heard was;
“…F Andy Potts…” This and that over and over again. “…I’m the champ today…Andy who?” My wife and I looked at each other in disgust. That dude reminds me of a little cry baby.
For all we ‘know’ Orbea could have been defaulting on payments, agreed bonuses or contract conditions. We don’t actually ‘know’ anything. Wait for the fecking story to come out before we start losing respect for a World Champion or a manufacturer.
Can we talk about how fit he is and how he is going to win in Kona?
Can’t look past no 10 this year Andreas Raelart.
Can we talk about how fit he is and how he is going to win in Kona?
Can’t look past no 10 this year Andreas Raelart.
AGREED!! It would be so awesome if we could have repeat of last year but with Crowie inserted for Macca. And maybe throw in some Lieto as a dark horse. I wish the younger Raelert was racing.
There is no sporting event in the world, with the exception of the Tour de France, that sets itself up for the following year’s race better than Kona. A combination of poor performances and missing competitors, every year’s competition lends itself to the belief, maybe the hope, that next year will be even better.
Crowie will win this year. Next year, maybe Macca will come back, maybe Lance will race? Each Kona builds momentum for the following year. God I love that race.
Seems like Macca just can’t stop taking shots at Crowie (old habits die hard).
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
I lost a ton of respect for that dude on Sunday after 70.3 worlds. We were at our hotel sitting not 10 feet away from his table and all we heard was;
“…F Andy Potts…” This and that over and over again. “…I’m the champ today…Andy who?” My wife and I looked at each other in disgust. That dude reminds me of a little cry baby.
I dont know you or CA personally, but it is interesting to me when people overhear “private” conversations and then pass judgement. I am sure you have never said anything that you are not proud of and/or taken out of context. CA could be a prick for all I know…just saying…you may too.
I also know perception is reality, and can understand why your perception of him would be negative after this experience…its tough to judge a person as a whole with such brief and somewhat unintended contact.
Yeah, frankly who cares what maca thinks about Crowie and his dispute with the slow Orbea tt bikes. It’s something for Crowe and Orbea to deal with.
I’d like to hear something from Alexander on all this-I’m starting to lose a little respect for him.
I lost a ton of respect for that dude on Sunday after 70.3 worlds. We were at our hotel sitting not 10 feet away from his table and all we heard was;
“…F Andy Potts…” This and that over and over again. “…I’m the champ today…Andy who?” My wife and I looked at each other in disgust. That dude reminds me of a little cry baby.
I dont know you or CA personally, but it is interesting to me when people overhear “private” conversations and then pass judgement. I am sure you have never said anything that you are not proud of and/or taken out of context. CA could be a prick for all I know…just saying…you may too.
I also know perception is reality, and can understand why your perception of him would be negative after this experience…its tough to judge a person as a whole with such brief and somewhat unintended contact.
Your comments are certainly fair and I see your point. I think more than anything the point I was trying to make is this. In all of the interviews, CA seems to come across as this total good guy. He does not wrong, tries really hard to keep the clean public image, etc… Tries to say the right things in front of the camera. Bam race is over and he’s talking smack. Loud enough for me to hear all of it pretty much. In a huge public area. Right or wrong. He won the race isn’t that enough. Why take personal shots at a guy who’s not there to defend himself? That’s all I was saying.
Well said! I look so forward to sitting and watching the online Kona coverage all day, after a workout of course. I do the same for the Tour, Paris-Robaix, and even all of the heat races in track & field, if on TV, and if I have time. Always the DVR option. I love watching the development of the race, whether it be minutes, hours or days. It was really cool watching all of last years race and watching Raelert work his way up to Macca. I do like the highlight “Sportscenter” versions, but really only for my non-core sports, like football (US style) and NBA hoops.
Not a huge Lance fan, but it would be cool to see him in Kona, IMHO. Great for the growth of the sport. Maybe too great. Not sure we can handle that exposure! I see 5,000 people in the water at Placid the year after! (insert WTC bash here). If I were Giro, Trek, Oakley and whomever else, I would get together, toss a few million his way, and get him in that race. I’m not in marketing, but that seems like it would pay off.
“tough to judge a person as a whole with such brief and somewhat unintended contact”
That seems to be the mode of choice here on ST these days. Extra credit is given for judging people we’ve never met. Sigh.
The level of the sense of entitlement in this thread is absolutely astounding.
It’s nothing more than schoolgirl rumor-mongering gone wild.
Maybe this is all a very clever marketing story? Nobody buys the Ordu anyway, except as a budget bike. So you have your main athlete use the competitors bike, basically claiming that “he wants to use the fastest bike available”.
And then - surprise - Orbea finally delivers a new bike and the athlete will be back on the “next level superbike” nobody would have cared for, if not for this little plot.
If I had to set up a story for a new Orbea bike, I would be proud of such a plot.
Still guys, and now you are losing respect for him? If you haven’t seen his contract you can’t know if he is right or wrong. What if his Ordu was broken in transit and Orbea couldn’t get him a new one, or his contract stated that he would have a new (better) bike by X date and that promise was broken?