LP report from an old fat guy

I had a great day at Lake Placid on Sunday. I made a number of mistakes which I hope to correct next year. They were instructive.

First mistake was to leave the bike special needs bag with my Carbo Pro mixture at home. This didn’t worry me since it was a nice day so I figured I could live off the aid stations for the second loop of the bike. That didn’t work since you just can’t get down enough calories with Gatorade on a cool day since you just can’t drink enough of it. At least I can’t. Practice your transitions and bringing all your junk to the race. Mistakes have consequences.

My second mistake was to take off my saddle cover. This lead to some discomfort on the second loop including three “breaks”. These breaks take a lot longer for us old guys than for the young turks on this board who don’t have any reason to even know what a prostate is. Next year I make to trip to my favorite urologist and assume the standard position for 30 seconds before my next race.

Despite these problems and not having done much swimming at all this year, the swim went really well with a 1:10 swim split. I had figured that my best possible time this year would be 1:10, so I have no complaints. Well except for the kicks in the googles, chin, and various other areas that are not a big problem for the women in the race. I nearly lost my race cap. The draft was amazing however, so the full contact swim is definitely worth the price.

The bike went really well too. It was a beautiful day, so I should have brought my disc. The first lap was 3:03, which is seven minutes faster than I ever did before on that course.

The thing I did well this year was to lose the weight. I lost 10 pounds and it made a big difference on the hills. Getting the weight down is more important than lots of training, at least on this course.

The other thing I did well was learn how to ride a bike. I descended the Keene hill without brakes or fear and hit 48 mph. That is a first for me that only took five years of trying.

The second bike loop was 3:25 including three eating and bathroom breaks mostly caused by not having my Carbo Pro and seat cover. I got off the bike at 7:45 into the race which was exactly my best case time. The problem was that I was behind on my nutrition.

My brain was working well enough to know that I had to attack the nutrition problem quickly. I invested some time in the first three aid stations to chow down on the marathon bars and lots of water to wash them down. This cost me some walking time, but I pulled back from the bonk so it was well worth it. I kept running fairly well until the hills starting at mile 9. These slowed me way down for a first lap of 2:23, which is not bad for me at least.

My third and biggest mistake of all though was not fixing my very tight hamstrings. My right hamstring completely locked up the first time down the hill by the ski jumps, but I was able to stretch it out at a cost of two or three minutes. My left one is the worst though, and it made it nearly impossible to run over the last few miles. Even walking through an aid station would cause a lot of pain when I tried to start running again.

At the 20 mile mark, with only a stinkin’ 10K to go, even 12:30 miles would have easily had me home under 13 hours. My left leg would not cooperate, so I hobbled home in 13:07. I am very happy with the time, all things considered.

My fourth mistake is not having yet addressed the reality that I simply can’t run a marathon, even without a bike and run before it. I need to find a way to fend off injuries well enough to do some 18 plus mile runs next year. I am guessing this will be on my treadmill, since running on the treadmill is a lot less pounding on these old bones than running on the roads.

I really enjoyed the support from the various Slowtwitchers at Lake Placid. Particular thanks to Kona2008 who cheered me on each time we passed on the run. It helped.

Next year will mark my fifth try at Lake Placid. My time has come down about 20 odd minutes each time. Do you think there would be a market for a book called Five years to a 13 hour Ironman? Hmm. Guess not.

      Congratulations Art on a great race.  Your time spent working on that race is paying off.  Next year; sub 13.  You will do it!

AJ,

Congrats and well done. I just sat home with my separated shoulder following the race on the computer and wishing I was there. Good Job!

Congratulations!!! Well done indeed…overcoming the problems…Many thanks to you and others who have taken the time to write their experience. It gives me pleasure and more motivation to keep training until IM Wisconsin…my first IM for me…

Great job Art. I also had a great race in LP (11:27) and relied solely on Gatorade and GU on the bike - it can be done!!!

Awesome race, Art.

Did you ride the P3, or the road bike?

And what’s your plan to fix the tight hamstrings?

I used the P3. I did try a road bike up there. I was stunned at how much slower I was. Once I found I could finally handle the P3 on the Keene hill, the decision was easy.

I am thinking I need to do some Bikram (sp?) yoga. I hate the high heat they use, but their routine really does stretch you out. It takes a lot of time out of the week though. I certainly need to do something. This is out of hand.

Congratulations and good job, Art!

I’m sorry that I didn’t get to meet anybody in Lake Placid. I was you stand up during the banquet, but I couldn’t find anybody afterwards. Ah, well, perhaps next time.

I’m glad you had a good race.

Unfortunately, GQ hasn’t called yet and no offers have been forthcoming. I was hoping the exposure would lead to a little exposure so to speak, but I guess not.

I guess hopes of being a GQ model might go the way of hopes of a trip to Kona.

Never give up on your dreams. Remember, Anything is Possible(c). ;p

Your race report is nice and congratulations.

Mr. Franke,

If your an old fat guy that finished in 13 hours and I finished in 16 whats that make me?

I guess I might as well just give up and go home. Thanks.

It makes you an Ironman.

Going home is a good idea so long as you have a treadmill there.

AJ: Have you now done both IMLP and Tupper Lake by any chance? If so, if you were to define one loop of the LP bike course as a “ten” what score would you give the Tupper Lake course? Anyone else who could make this comparison, please feel free to chime in. For the record, I will be trying my hand at IMLP next year, and damn if that bike profile doesn’t look intimidating.

Sorry, I have never done Tupper Lake, but I am sure there are plenty of posters here who have. If your post doesn’t get a response, start a new thread.

I’ve done both, and the description I once read that described Tupper Lake as about a 5-6 overall and Lake Placid as a 7-8 overall on a scale of ten, seems about right.

When I did Tupper Lake last year, I thought that it was very hilly and difficult, but now that I have done a lot more cycling and more races(all in the northeast) I realize that it is only moderately hilly. I will say this: When people say “rollers” take it with a grain of salt and preride the course. One guy’s roller is another guy’s mountain.

Tupper Lake has a lot of rolling hills, with a few long hills that will prove challenging for someone with poor climbing ability(me) but which a strong rider will cruise right up.

Lake Placid, on the other hand, is challenging because it features many long, steady climbs. I expected it to be hillier based on the descriptions that I read, but I misunderstood the course. It’s not that it has lots of really steep climbs, it has lots of long climbs, and a few of them are fairly steep.

Looking at the profile is intimidating. But you signed up for the challenge, right? ;p

To do well at LP, I would focus on my climbing and my muscular endurance(this will be my focus for next season) so that you do well on the climbs, but also don’t fade on the second loop. Keep in mind, though, that the marathon is also tough, and you don’t want to leave it all on the race course.

I hope this helps. Good Luck next year. Lake Placid is an incredible race.

hey Art, if you vote for Kerry, you should improve your time by at least 30 minutes next year!

I will look for that promise in his speech tonight. According to Edwards, Hope is on the Way. I knew he was good, but I didn’t know he was that good. I guess a good legal brief can work wonders.

Congrats on a good race! And remember, old fat guys need to mantain joint flexibility so start stretching now, you might write the book “Stretching to a 13-hour IM” :slight_smile:

That is a good idea on the A.R.T therapy that I hadn’t considered. I believe there is a local practicioner. I should check it out.

I have been very happy with the Carbo Pro since I can use it and easily get down 400 calories or so per hour with no digestive problems other than slight gas. I would suggest you give it a try. If not I would be happy to pull a Mr. Tibbs and have you send it to me at 6511 Arlington Lane, Parklsnd, FL 33067.

You really should give it a try on a long workout day though since you already have the stuff.

art, for your long runs in the future try the run walk method. you could do a 10-1 ratio or what ever your comfy with.
congrats