Does anyone know what is happening on this show? I’m lost.
I have a fairly good handle. But it might take me an hour or two to explain it to you…do you have specific questions?
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I DVR’d last night’s episode but haven’t watched it yet.
I got season 4 on DVD for Christmas and it has an 8:15 recap of the show that did a nice job of summing everything up. I can post to youtube or whatever if requested.
At what point did you get lost? Do you need an update or an explanation of what the heck is going on? If the latter, good luck.
So instead of clearly being flashbacks or flashforwards, the characters themselves are time traveling around the island’s history. I’m going off the top of my head, but we’re seeing what may have given the island its strange properties (the nuclear bomb), the american “invasion”, Rousseau’s landing, Whidmore & Ben’s history on the island, and we’ll probably see the Black Rock too. And in the future, we’re seeing how Ben manipulates them to get back. Jack and Kate are annoying. Pretty simple.
As for the nose bleeds, who knows. I guess its one way to kill off some characters.
Lostpedia is a great resource btw. I love reading the fan theories after each episode.
I’m pretty mixed up with all the time travel stuff.
I don’t think at this point we have any idea what exactly is causing the time travel. We do know we are “Time traveling” and they are throwing in a whole bunch of new questions.
One I came up with last night was the French lady meeting Jin. If that was the case did they not ever meet after the plane crash? I can’t remember and if they did she should have recognized him.
There’s a lot going on so I’m not sure exactly what your question is 
~Matt
There may be spoilers ahead:
The people on the island (Sawyer, Locke, Faraday, et al) keep jumping through time. They know this is happening. Each time the bright white light flashes, they know they will be transported to a new time. So far, they have generally been able to figure out “when” they are. They do not yet know “when” they are at the end of last night’s episode. Jin does not know that the island is jumping through time. Although he obviously knows something is amiss when he meets the French woman on the beach.
The people off the island (Jack, Kate, Sayid, Ben, et al) are not travelling through time. The “current” scenes with them trying to get back to the island are three years after they left the island.
So, in theory we are seeing two points in “time” in every show. Current time on the island (although they keep jumping to a new time, in theory 24hrs on the island (to Sawyer, Locke, et al) is 24hrs off the island) and three years later off the island (for Jack, Kate, et al).
I have a feeling something is different though…like 24hrs on the island is 7 days off the island or something. Will Sawyer have aged 3 years by the time Kate gets back to the island? My guess is “no”. How would Sawyer et al survive jumping time every hour, 2 hours, 8 hours, day, or whatever it is for 3 years?
Is there a reason the island chooses to jump through time?
Current time on the island (although they keep jumping to a new time, in theory 24hrs on the island (to Sawyer, Locke, et al) is 24hrs off the island)
like 24hrs on the island is 7 days off the island or something.
Although we don’t know the exact ratio we do know that there is some sort of “Distortion” difference. The scenes with were the rocket was launched from the boat to Daniel and the amount of time it took for the helicopter to get back to the boat was a couple days on the Island, but only a couple hours on the boat.
~Matt
Edit to add**: **Another question, Jin was on the boat when it blew. He was quite a ways further from the Island than the Helicopter. Jin got moved with the Island but the Helicopter did not? Also the boat did not move with the Island as it was gone after the first flash.
Wed dont know for sure.
Two things however. The Island was “Moved”, assuming that had something to do with it and the Island is “Angry” or “Searching” for the missing people.
~Matt
I think that Miles is MArvin Candls son, hence the nosebleeds
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Why does Ben want the baby?
I don’t know that Ben wants the baby as much as he was trying to give Kate some motivation to leave and go back to the island.
If EVERYONE has to go back to the island then Aaron, the baby, does to. No way would Kate take the baby to the island, so Ben has to take him. Just a WAG.
~Matt
Is there a reason the island chooses to jump through time?
In last season’s finale, Ben went down into the Orchid station and turned a crank. We later saw a flashback showing Dharma folks digging into the rock on the other side of the “crank” and were told that they had to stop due to the huge energy source between the Dharma diggers and the crank (they had some type of x-ray or something that showed the crank was out there though). Someone (a Dharma guy) made a comment about how they thought the energy source would allow them to travel through time.
So, for some reason, Ben’t crank-turning “moved” the island. And everyone on it. There was a comment made during this season, something like “the island is a record and right now it’s on a scratch and is skipping around”. The only way to get it back on track (apparently) is for all of the folks on the helicopter to return to the island.
I don’t know why Jin moved with the island, but the helicopter and its passengers did not. Jin should have been further away from the island. Unless the blast from the ship threw him out in front of the helicopter and into the range of the bright light. That seems a little far fetched. Not unlike many things from this show…
Jin should have been further away from the island. Unless the blast from the ship threw him out in front of the helicopter and into the range of the bright light. That seems a little far fetched. Not unlike many things from this show…
Kind of what I was thinking as well. Also whatever conditions caused Jin to move should have caused the boat to move, as they said “Seems anything we touch/touching goes with us”, the boats, Zodiac and Row boat, for instance. So unless the “First jump” was also a time jump the boat would have gone with Jin. If it was also a time jump then it would have sunk.
the only explanation I could come up with is a combination of things like the first jump was a time shift as well as a location shift and the “Bubble” that it affected went out further than it went up. So the helicopter was above the area that was affected…or some craziness like that.
~Matt
"I don’t know why Jin moved with the island, but the helicopter and its passengers did not. Jin should have been further away from the island. Unless the blast from the ship threw him out in front of the helicopter and into the range of the bright light. That seems a little far fetched. Not unlike many things from this show… "
I think probably because the island knows who its needs, and it still needs Jin, so it encompassed him when it jumped in time to save his life. Somehow, despite the warnings thus far, I think the Oceanic 6 getting off the island for a time was necessary. Those people wanted to get off and needed to see for themselves that they had to be on the island.
"One I came up with last night was the French lady meeting Jin. If that was the case did they not ever meet after the plane crash? I can’t remember and if they did she should have recognized him. "
Remember though, Desmond didn’t remember Faraday coming to the hatch until it happened after the time jumps, and then in a dream but knowing it was a memory. So, if Danielle were alive, she would remember now. This gets circular, but at the point we saw Danielle in previous seasons, these jumps hadn’t happened yet, and perhaps were not supposed to happen. Now they are and they are changing the timeline.
Jin should have been further away from the island. Unless the blast from the ship threw him out in front of the helicopter and into the range of the bright light. That seems a little far fetched. Not unlike many things from this show…
Kind of what I was thinking \\
Or it could be that the island only went with what was on the ground/water, not the air…Being that the boat sank, we do not know that it did not move too, just at the bottom of the sea…
Just another theory, we may never know for sure…They might have just thrown it in there without thinking about the ramifications, and all us nerds that need some time/space theory to make things logical…