I have been toying around with my position on my race bike, and my position that gets me comfortable is almost like a hybrid. I flipped the stem, added the max of 2 cm of spacers, and it feels okay. My position is not nearly as bad as I had described it, but it is lots different than what made me competitive back “in the day”. Bjorn Andersson would get a great laugh. Thank G’d I can’t take a pic of it right now…
One caveat- now I have to try to make it easy on the old shoulders. Damnit, I am really fucking frustrated right now.