Long bike frame with steep seat tube?

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I have long tibias and upper arms and have bootlegged a medium 2012 TT frame since 2022 by using a 190mm stem. Admitting it’s time to upgrade. Looking for the ability to shove the seat right above the BB, and a long reach to enable it, but also low stack at the front.

Trinity - steep and long, but not low stack

Cannondale slice - steep and low but not long

Orbea - steep and long and low(?) but expensive

Canyon, Cervelo and Trek SC a subpar mix of not very long and fairly expensive.

Any ideas? Open to Chinese and unusual brands. Rim brake is okay if it has wide stays for tyres over 25mm at the back.

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how much pad stack and reach are you looking for ?

where are you ?

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Have you looked at Vanquish bikes. @TRIPRO is the owner and worked with me on a very adjustable cockpit so should fit the bill and cheaper than others.

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UK. Not at the stage to buy yet, just hoping to see what other brands could have the right geometry. For many bikes their size large or XL isn’t actually longer. And obvs spacers can fine tune the front but few frames have a short head tube.

Adding Scott to the list, but seeing very few on eBay or marketplace that fit the bill and none under 2.5k gbp

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If you give your desired pad stack and reach you can probably zero in on a bike easier

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Trinity, not steep unless you find 77 degrees of seat angle steep, also not long in pad reach and not even close if 2.5 gbp is your budget

Same for the Orbea, a max of 78 degrees of seat tube angle is not that steep.
I would say 79 to 82 can be considered a steep STA.

But 77 might be steep enough for you.
Reach wise there is currently no bike longer then ours and it can be set up quite low.

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Very few older rim brake bikes went past 650 Front Centre because of UCI rules. It’s only in the last few years that we’re seeing longer frames.

I keep a long frames list:

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I have 54cm from saddle nose to back of pads, achieved with the crazy stem as the BB to fork is only about 42cm (and BB to pads 53cm). Base bar handles are unnecessarily far forward because it’s a one-piece cockpit. Drop is about 15cm now but I’m happy with much more.

Since the extra length of a “largest” frame (BB to head tube) per manufacturer is so small, I wonder if it’s more of a base bar and cockpit solution to look at…

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And where is your nose of the saddle located behind the bb (or in front)?
As an example on my medium Vanquish i have a saddle height of 785 mm, nose 15 mm behind bb and can get my armpads without any problem at 60 cm, measured from point to point. The bar angle is 20 degrees, but i have 10 degrees of tilt left. Drop is 90 mm.

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Thanks, updated my reply^. I see Vanquish offers plenty of reach, up to 48-63cm BB to pads. Good to know. Shame I top out at about 2.5k GBP

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That’s not that far off of our price which includes the handle bar which is not the case in most frames.

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Aha found the desktop pricing page. Frameset, so I think I’m limited to second hand. Thanks though

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Ah, you wanted a full complete bike for that amount, well, if you believe in fairytales :wink:
Just kiddin, that is going to be a task if you want disc brakes and a modern bike, I would say almost impossible unless working with extremely long stems

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Didn’t think so! Implied by the budget