Kristin Armstrong (ex-wife) blog post

You asked for a link. I gave you one and told you there was another if you want to look for it, or maybe someone can repost it. I have no clue about the reliability of it and frankly don’t care. If you care, do some research on the interweb thingy.

I asked Ben for one besides the iReport one which anyone in the world can post junk to.

Here is the actual story of the event with pictures not some BS that a fake iReport guy made up.
According to this event it was a 2 day event not just a 3 hour ride - http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/...ullstory&id=3503
See lance riding with the other bikers. See pictures with people happy.

Not saying Lance didn’t make money off the event as it was a two day fund raiser. The whole iReport was just a bunch of BS. The cost was $35,000 but doesn’t say what the cost breakdown was.

Here is another report on it. It’s a really good article with even more new tidbits including a conversation confirming Lance sent John Kerry some rather tersely worded stuff http://reader.roopstigo.com/...tory/595#/chapter/4/

Of course you’ll still blow it off, but I wanted it clear there are links to this that are and have been researched. I may make the occasional mistake like everyone else, but im not out to make shit up. Theres plenty Lance and co-conspirators did wrong on their own they don’t need me adding anything untrue.

That just referenced the cnn iReport guy. You can’t point to a story that references the iReport. You passed on a story that Lance made $500,000 from a 3 hour event. I provided a link that said it was 2 days not just 3 hours. There are no reports other than the iReport guys saying how much Lance made. There is no proof or other story he made $500,000.

Most high profile people have an apperance fee. That is how they make some money. It like when you go to charity gala and it costs $500 a plate. Well not all that money goes to the charity you have to take out the cost of putting on the event.

That just referenced the cnn iReport guy. You can’t point to a story that references the iReport. You passed on a story that Lance made $500,000 from a 3 hour event. I provided a link that said it was 2 days not just 3 hours. There are no reports other than the iReport guys saying how much Lance made. There is no proof or other story he made $500,000.

Most high profile people have an apperance fee. That is how they make some money. It like when you go to charity gala and it costs $500 a plate. Well not all that money goes to the charity you have to take out the cost of putting on the event.

So you’re fine with the fact that not only was there an appearance fee, but it was more than 1/3rd the cost of entry? With costs that high, that’s the whole reason they only gave tax receipts for $25k, so it wouldnt look horrific when the charity reported it.

You asked for reputable source, I provided one that reseached and contacted the guy. You fight the minutia instead of the point. Let’s say it was $250k. who cares, it’s the same issue. It’s like when he shows up to the first pelotonia, and required $100k and netjets credits to come do some work for a cancer charity. He says its all about charity when really its all about making money. If it was about charity he would have relied on his millions of dollars of endorsements and actually been charitable at these events.(and just this once, because I know you’ll ask, here is one of several of reports backing that up: http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html)

You act like there’s no truth to all this but there is. Just because 15 sources arent corroborating one event doesnt mean there isnt plenty of corroboration of the overall pattern.

That just referenced the cnn iReport guy. You can’t point to a story that references the iReport. You passed on a story that Lance made $500,000 from a 3 hour event. I provided a link that said it was 2 days not just 3 hours. There are no reports other than the iReport guys saying how much Lance made. There is no proof or other story he made $500,000.

Most high profile people have an apperance fee. That is how they make some money. It like when you go to charity gala and it costs $500 a plate. Well not all that money goes to the charity you have to take out the cost of putting on the event.

So you’re fine with the fact that not only was there an appearance fee, but it was more than 1/3rd the cost of entry? With costs that high, that’s the whole reason they only gave tax receipts for $25k, so it wouldnt look horrific when the charity reported it.

You asked for reputable source, I provided one that reseached and contacted the guy. You fight the minutia instead of the point. Let’s say it was $250k. who cares, it’s the same issue. It’s like when he shows up to the first pelotonia, and required $100k and netjets credits to come do some work for a cancer charity. He says its all about charity when really its all about making money. If it was about charity he would have relied on his millions of dollars of endorsements and actually been charitable at these events.(and just this once, because I know you’ll ask, here is one of several of reports backing that up: http://www.outsideonline.com/...ut-the-Lab-Rats.html)

You act like there’s no truth to all this but there is. Just because 15 sources arent corroborating one event doesnt mean there isnt plenty of corroboration of the overall pattern.

You didn’t provide anything other then a link back to the iReport and then it was his assumtion that Lance got the money. You can’t just put up 10 links that all site one guys posting in cnn’s iReport. I want proof that $10,000 of the $35,000 that each rider paid went directly to Lance. You have none and that guy who made up a bunch of stuff had none. Heck maybe most of that $10,000 went to that motor coach the dude was hired to drive. Then there are lots of other costs associated with the ride. Look at the tax laws. You are not entitled to deduct the full cost of an event. You can only claim on your taxes that part that went to charity. So if you buy a shirt for $10 and it goes to charity you have to remove the actual cost of the shirt so you only get to deduct $5 or so. So if that ride was $35,000 and $25,000 went to the charity then the other $10,000 went to the costs of putting on the event. You have dinners, hotel rooms, coaches, apperance fees, ect…

That just referenced the cnn iReport guy. You can’t point to a story that references the iReport. You passed on a story that Lance made $500,000 from a 3 hour event. I provided a link that said it was 2 days not just 3 hours. There are no reports other than the iReport guys saying how much Lance made. There is no proof or other story he made $500,000.

Most high profile people have an apperance fee. That is how they make some money. It like when you go to charity gala and it costs $500 a plate. Well not all that money goes to the charity you have to take out the cost of putting on the event.

So you’re fine with the fact that not only was there an appearance fee, but it was more than 1/3rd the cost of entry? With costs that high, that’s the whole reason they only gave tax receipts for $25k, so it wouldnt look horrific when the charity reported it.

You asked for reputable source, I provided one that reseached and contacted the guy. You fight the minutia instead of the point. Let’s say it was $250k. who cares, it’s the same issue. It’s like when he shows up to the first pelotonia, and required $100k and netjets credits to come do some work for a cancer charity. He says its all about charity when really its all about making money. If it was about charity he would have relied on his millions of dollars of endorsements and actually been charitable at these events.(and just this once, because I know you’ll ask, here is one of several of reports backing that up: http://www.outsideonline.com/...ut-the-Lab-Rats.html)

You act like there’s no truth to all this but there is. Just because 15 sources arent corroborating one event doesnt mean there isnt plenty of corroboration of the overall pattern.You may not be making shit up but you appear to be a master of mis-interpreting what you read with a particular bias against Lance. It doesn’t take much searching to find some background on the event in question. It was put on by Tour of Courage in Calgary and Lance attended over a two day period. Individuals who went on the ride were responsible for raising $35,000. This is a common method for raising money for cancer and while some people may choose to write the check themselves, many people put on their own events and do the legwork to raise the required $35,000.

Here is an article from an actual participant (not a bus driver) : http://tour.thebowlans.com/ which provides some background. No complaints from him and certainly no evidence as to what Lance’s appearance fee may or may not have been.

Your credibility on matters pertaining to LA is very low. Stick to the facts.

edit: This event was a Canadian charity and full tax receipts were available for any donations above $20.

Great point
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Betsy Andreau seemed to be the only one with some morals.

The interview she did on Competitor Radio in 2007 was very entertaining and convinced me back then. With hindsight, it’s even better.

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/152betsy-andreu/#more-153

People have good reason not to like LA, but the few instances where people have speculated that he makes money off of cancer fund raising appearances have been unfounded.

Betsy Andreau seemed to be the only one with some morals.

The interview she did on Competitor Radio in 2007 was very entertaining and convinced me back then. With hindsight, it’s even better.

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/152betsy-andreu/#more-153

She’s not half-bad looking, either, considering her name* is* “Betsy”

http://www.bicycling.com/sites/default/files/fck_content/Andreu_Betsy.jpg?h=200

“Liz” or “Beth”* might *work better?

People have good reason not to like LA, but the few instances where people have speculated that he makes money off of cancer fund raising appearances have been unfounded.

He was paid $100k and netjets credit to appear at Pelotonia, a cancer charity bike ride. http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html IMO There’s no way that’s the only time.

Good thing that LA dropped her… she has not worn well.

People have good reason not to like LA, but the few instances where people have speculated that he makes money off of cancer fund raising appearances have been unfounded.

He was paid $100k and netjets credit to appear at Pelotonia, a cancer charity bike ride. http://www.outsideonline.com/...ut-the-Lab-Rats.html IMO There’s no way that’s the only time.

That was not a LiveStrong event and apperance/speaking fees are paid all the time to high profile people.

Pelotonia executive director Tom Lennox considers it worth the expense: the 2011 edition of the ride pulled in more than $11 million—all of which will be spent on cancer research, by the way.

NetJets was also a sponser of the event.

People have good reason not to like LA, but the few instances where people have speculated that he makes money off of cancer fund raising appearances have been unfounded.

He was paid $100k and netjets credit to appear at Pelotonia, a cancer charity bike ride. http://www.outsideonline.com/...ut-the-Lab-Rats.html IMO There’s no way that’s the only time.

That was not a LiveStrong event and apperance/speaking fees are paid all the time to high profile people.

Pelotonia executive director Tom Lennox considers it worth the expense: the 2011 edition of the ride pulled in more than $11 million—all of which will be spent on cancer research, by the way.

Styrrell said cancer fundraising not livestrong. And I dont dispute pelotonia was a good event. Im merely pointing out he has made money of charity fundraising, and i think as the Qui Tam goes forward and his financials become publicly exposed, a lot more verification will be laid bare. Frankly, I don’t really care, I’d rather us move on to what the next changes need to be in anti-doping.

That was totally classless, tasteless
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People have good reason not to like LA, but the few instances where people have speculated that he makes money off of cancer fund raising appearances have been unfounded.

He was paid $100k and netjets credit to appear at Pelotonia, a cancer charity bike ride. http://www.outsideonline.com/...ut-the-Lab-Rats.html IMO There’s no way that’s the only time.

That was not a LiveStrong event and apperance/speaking fees are paid all the time to high profile people.

Pelotonia executive director Tom Lennox considers it worth the expense: the 2011 edition of the ride pulled in more than $11 million—all of which will be spent on cancer research, by the way.

Styrrell said cancer fundraising not livestrong. And I dont dispute pelotonia was a good event. Im merely pointing out he has made money of charity fundraising, and i think as the Qui Tam goes forward and his financials become publicly exposed, a lot more verification will be laid bare. Frankly, I don’t really care, I’d rather us move on to what the next changes need to be in anti-doping.

There you qo with that Qui Tam junk what will never amout to anything…

Also no money was taken from that charity ride as “The business model of Pelotonia was and remains simple: corporate partners cover the expenses, so that every cent of every dollar raised by Pelotonia riders goes directly to fund cancer research. Pelotonia was initially funded with a five-year, $12.5 million commitment from NetJets, and the goal was to raise $40 million during this time period.”

There you qo with that Qui Tam junk what will never amout to anything…

I’ll keep this quote so we can come back to it later. Of the things that will be most damaging to lance beyond his legacy and the most likely to be successful of all lawsuits, this is it.

There you qo with that Qui Tam junk what will never amout to anything…

I’ll keep this quote so we can come back to it later. Of the things that will be most damaging to lance beyond his legacy and the most likely to be successful of all lawsuits, this is it.

If that Qui Tam lawsuit by the doper is succesfull I will donate $100 to the Eleonore Rocks charity in your name.