Is there anybody out there who have managed to haul 95kg/210lb across the line to get a slot? Legacy excluded.
Ain Alar was/is 94kg - but not above your figure
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Torbjorn_Sindballe...how_big_P1530156/
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I very much doubt it.
I’ve seen pics of Lew Hollander and, whereas I don’t have the exact number, I’d bet he’s over 210. And he’s been qualifying for years and years and years.
I’ve seen pics of Lew Hollander and, whereas I don’t have the exact number, I’d bet he’s over 210. And he’s been qualifying for years and years and years.
I’m sure he was not asking about 80 year olds.
I very much doubt it.
I very much doubt it either unless the KQ’er was 6’8" or something.
if you are fairly tall and pick a very cold, very flat race, should be possible with enough talent.
maybe not the best choice of mass or sport though, given the volume of running you will be doing at 210lbs
You would have to be a very, very big person to KQ at 210lbs.
If you’re in the hunt for a Kona spot, you’ll be training like mad, and most likely be at your lowest possible weight for your body type come race day. Someone who is 210 with very low body fat would have to be very naturally built and in the 6’5"+ range.
That person would probably have better luck taking up rowing or basketball then chasing a KQ spot =).
A 6’9, 210 lb man would have about the same BMI as a 6’1, 170 lb guy.
Not unusual for a kona qualifier at all.
But how many people are that tall?
And athletic? (Most people that tall will have physical problems).
And not suffering from some basketball related injury?
And willing to train hard for an ironman?
I think it is just a matter of too few people.
2013 IM Louisville I took 5th m30-34 in 9:37 at 6foot 220lbs. Let my slot roll.
No offence, but BMI is a completely useless metric, especially so when considering outliers, like people who are very fit, such as in the subject of the OP.
I know a few guys on our national rowing team. These guys are beasts. Around the 210-220 range, taller then 6’4" and with extremely low body fat. I can’t imagine one of those big lumbering dudes running their way to a KQ spot, despite their exceptional fitness and other worldly pain tolerance!
How about actually winning the AG at Kona? Does that count?
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Congrats_to_BigBloke!_P2541011/
Ryan Barnett raced Kona 3 years ago at 100Kg and went 9:27…
Ryan Barnett raced Kona 3 years ago at 100Kg and went 9:27…
That is insane!
No offence, but BMI is a completely useless metric,
I think it is useful to keep in mind the distinction between ‘imperfect’ and ‘useless’.
How about actually winning the AG at Kona? Does that count?
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Congrats_to_BigBloke!_P2541011/
SWEEEEEEET (and spreadsheet to boot!)
I love his Injuries column for Sept 09: “Threw up 17 times after pineapple juice+milk”
At least he kept track and logged it like any good triathlete.
No offence, but BMI is a completely useless metric,
I think it is useful to keep in mind the distinction between ‘imperfect’ and ‘useless’.
Yes.
Weighing more than xx that is a useless metric.
The amount of weight one is carrying around versus the size of their “frame” is an imperfect measure.
If it were “useless” we would not be talking about some 95kg guy winning his AG. We would see people like this winning outright all the time. Which is faster 9:27 (Clydesdale) or 8:03 (nonclydesdale).
There is a difference between being big, being heavy and being fat.
6’9 - 210 lbs is big. This is probably not a disadvantage at all. (Their are just not a lot of people like that).
6’0- 210- only 8% body fat- is probably a disadvantage. Is the extra 40 lbs of muscle the core of the problem? Is it the time spent lifting weights instead of swim/bike/running the problem? Is it the unlikelihood of having a heart/lungs that is proportionate to the extra 40lbs of muscles? Is it the increased likelihood of injury?
Maybe a little of all.
6’0-210-30% body fat- is also a disadvantage. But is it possible to be the fat and train hard enough to kona qualify? Or would the training necessary to kona qualify usually eliminate the fat?
(It did for me).
I knew a world class swimmer who quit swimming and got really fat.
During his comeback, his speed recovered much faster than the loss of body fat.
On the other hand if he were a runner, he would have probably just injured himself (or would have had to loose the weight) before he got into shape.
It would be interesting if anyone with 25%+ body fat ever Kqed?
So weight - regardless of what form it takes - is the extreme limiter for being fast enough to KQ at IM distance?
It has very little impact on the swim, is offset somewhat on the bike by potential higher power and a flat course, so the run must be the biggest problem. Big/heavy athletes almost regardless of the engine, can’t move fast enough on the third leg to be really competitive!
So this sport is where a good small person will always beat a good big one.
How about 90kg / over 200lb?
So weight - regardless of what form it takes - is the extreme limiter for being fast enough to KQ at IM distance?
No, because weight in the form of height is often no penalty at all.