http://www.ajc.com/news/ruling-goes-against-barrow-1198216.html
It’s a social media site, she’s on vacation in Europe, it’s a glass of wine. What don’t I get with this?
If your afraid of what you might find on someone’s social site stay the hell away from it.
She messed up by letting kids/parents have access to her facebook page. Wife teaches 3rd grade, no kids as friends, and parents are restricted to viewing certain photos.
Shit ain’t that tough, but I see where you’re coming from. Stupid ruling is stupid. So is teacher.
Seriously, if you need that much protection for kids in America, we’re going to have a big bunch of wusses
around in a few years. Oh this is scary, don’t do that it’s dangerous, oh no this is wrong…WTF???
Chopper Reid prescribes to America’s parents a big dose of HTFU.
I don’t know about that. Seems to me there are several ways of managing social media if you’re a teacher, or in some similar situation. You can restrict access from your students/parents , or you can refrain from posting things that are offensive.
It doesn’t seem to me that posting a picture of yourself holding a glass of wine is offensive.
Where she screwed up is letting the district “pressure” her into resigning. If they wanted her gone, she should’ve made them fire her. Why make life easy on the bastards?
That is so effing stupid. Congrats, Barrow. You just lost a quality educator because she drank a glass of something she’s legally allowed to drink. Kindly remove stick from ass, please.
Can’t recall nor do I know all the facts, but I believe this all started a couple of years ago at least prior to the security and filters now in place on FB. She resigned in 2009. It may have been in 2008 when it was posted.
I can’t wait, in some ways, for serious survival hardship to hit the developed world.
so that people can worry about real shit
Can’t recall nor do I know all the facts, but I believe this all started a couple of years ago at least prior to the security and filters now in place on FB. She resigned in 2009. It may have been in 2008 when it was posted.
There was another case a few years ago (~5?) where a kid in a teaching school wasn’t allowed to graduate because she had facebook pictures of her with a red solo cup. Can’t seem to find it now though.
Crazy.
Her mistake was not the post, it was her resignation. Nobody held a gun to her head. She made an adult decision and now she wants $$$$? What a surprise.
Her mistake was not the post, it was her resignation.
IIRC, that is what is at stake here. She and her lawyer have made it about the facebook photo. She voluntarily resigned. She later said she was pressured. At stake was whether she should be afforded due process and compensation. It became a he said - she said battle with some of the only evidence being that she did in fact resign.
Now I don’t agree with the school board, its policy…but that isn’t the issue.
Where she screwed up is letting the district “pressure” her into resigning.
Agreed. She was drinking a glass of wine, why did she resign? I can’t help but believe there’s more to the story. If someone came to me with a complaint like that I’d have a hard time not laughing and taking them serious in the first place.
~Matt
“Now I don’t agree with the school board, its policy…but that isn’t the issue.”
The issue that the situation even came up. The board is 100% in the wrong and at complete fault on this issue. You are shifting blame because she didn’t do what you think she should have done. We don’t know the details of why she chose to resign instead of fighting it but it is all the fault of the school board because they started the hassle.
Seriously, if you need that much protection for kids in America
Couldn’t agree more. Watched a documentary on teen sex a few months back. They compared a European country with the US. The differences were startling, but expected.
They interviewed a older HS/Early college age female in Europe and asked “What would you think of a guy that had a condom in their wallet”. She didn’t understand the question and responded with, “well I have one in mine.” Eventually they got her to understand and her response was “Well if I ran into a guy that DIDN’T have a condemn in their wallet I’d probably walk away because clearly they aren’t very concerned about themselves or other people”…something to that effect.
They asked the same question of a few people in the US and the responses were very different and all were along the lines of “Well that person is slut/sleeze” etc.
They also showed the parents drinking with HS age kids at the dinner table and the kids drinking together “Socially” at an out door cafe. Same attitude from the parents. The one father responded with “It’s food, we treat it as food. If I saw him (his son) abusing it I would say something, but then I would say something if I saw him abusing any other food as well”
Oh but here in America if you post a picture of an adult drinking a class of wine you’ve offended the community.
~Matt
perhaps it was…
THE FINAL STRAW
“Why make life easy on the bastards?”
It’s easier to get another job if you resigned from the last one then if you got fired from it. I am not getting this shit everyone is giving the teacher. This is all the fault of the school board.
Oddly enough this wasn’t in the story…
“Payne has since deactivated her Facebook account but insists she never posted anything inappropriate online. “Nothing that I thought would be unethical or immoral in any way,” said Payne.” as
she danced naked around an image of Satan chanting kill kill kill. (OK, I made that last part up). But why deactivate your FB account? Like you said, more to this story than we have heard.
if I just lost my job due to my facebook account I might deactivate it too.
Oddly enough this wasn’t in the story…
“Payne has since deactivated her Facebook account but insists she never posted anything inappropriate online. “Nothing that I thought would be unethical or immoral in any way,” said Payne.” as
she danced naked around an image of Satan chanting kill kill kill. (OK, I made that last part up). But why deactivate your FB account? Like you said, more to this story than we have heard.
Where she screwed up is letting the district “pressure” her into resigning.
Agreed. She was drinking a glass of wine, why did she resign? I can’t help but believe there’s more to the story. If someone came to me with a complaint like that I’d have a hard time not laughing and taking them serious in the first place.
~Matt
Especially if they aren’t giving you any compensation for resigning. You pretty much do an end run around due process when you resign.
From the article, “The challenge is that Georgia law tends to maintain that if employees resign, even when their hands are forced, it doesn’t equal an involuntary termination.”
Moral of the story, make them drag you out of the building.
That is so effing stupid. Congrats, Barrow. You just lost a quality educator because she drank a glass of something she’s legally allowed to drink. Kindly remove stick from ass, please.
How do you know she was a “quality educator?” How do you know this was the only incident?
Here is the picture. She is not “just having a glass of wine.” Understand, I am not siding with the district here b/c I do not know all the facts.
However, the picture is her “double-fisting” drinks. Again, I am NOT justifying the decision, just pointing out a few more facts.
