Joe Rogan: Then and Now

I agree with your list except Dan Bongino, he’s a full right and not right leaning.

I haven’t listened to him even longer than that. Sounds like he really has gone right if he’s now shitting on Canada for standing up to Trump’s BS.

It pre-dates Trump’s re-election. During COVID he wasn’t allowed in because he was unvaccinated. I think he ended up cancelling shows over it. Since then he has refused to come north of the border.

Fwiw, he has said that the current feud is ridiculous and there should be no animosity towards Canada, but I haven’t heard him go so far as to blame Trump for, you know, starting the whole thing for no reason.

That’s at least better than him going off the right wing deep end.

Look like Rogan too has second thoughts…

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-criticism-musk-rogan-portnoy-ackman-7ee3cda2fe172d707af93e042e2009dd

This shit, at this point, is genuinely hysterical. Talk about reaping what you sow

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also looks like Lutnick sicced his lawyers on Ackman

Here’s how the grift works (Trump, not Rogan). I’ve seen this play out, over and over again, on many levels, all the way down to friends who want to sound smart.

There’s two ways to convince people that you are smart:

  1. Actually be smart and know things and talk about the things you actually know

  2. Just contradict everyone, all the time.

That’s what tariffs are. Trump likes tariffs precisely because no one else does (the way he’s implementing them, anyway). It’s a way to make his base go, “Oh my God! Why have we not already been doing this?! Good thing Trump is in charge, with these brilliant ideas that no one else thought of.”

Of course they’e dumb. If they were a good idea, someone other than him would have campaigned on it already.

Yup, because careful and targeted tariffs with specific policy goals, tariffs given with LOTS of advance notice, and then incrementally and slowly applied can actually be quite useful in certain situations.

But, yes, willy-nilly, on-again, off-again MASSIVE tariffs applied in surprise and justified with made-up non-math equations by a dumbsh*t leader?

Those, umm, not so much.

I may have to tune back in for this episode. Murray seems to be calling out Rogan directly for platforming horse shit peddlers.

https://x.com/saul_sadka/status/1910432210525839553?s=46&t=f4MKbkOzpNU_o_bXlnvUlQ

Lol what the hell was that rubbish? Every time he goes to make a point it gets edited and cut out…

May have posted a bad link. There’s a dozen or more clips circulating today, will check out the episode tomorrow. It’s trending heavily at the moment.

https://x.com/osint613/status/1910622639279714652?s=46&t=f4MKbkOzpNU_o_bXlnvUlQ

Rogan platforms peddlers of horse sh*t?

Well, color me shocked!

But he is just asking questions. And, of course, we know that all Italians love pizza …

Everytime I’ve heard Murray he starts out sounding like a reasonable guy, but before long he descends into being an ass. Not sure how performative it is, or it’s just him.

It’s interesting reading the repost summaries. Just about every clip I find myself disagreeing with the conclusion of the person summarizing and siding with Smith. Murray does make several good arguments from what I saw, but for example his attack on Smith for arguing about events in Gaza being essentially non-credible for not having been there personally seemed like hollow attempts to sidestep the point and instead discredit his opponent. We make informed decisions routinely based on aggregate information and consensus without having done the legwork personally. Pick any war and the premise holds, but for some reason Murray chose to dramatize his response to his opponent’s lack of travel to a war zone and make that the central point of argument. It was highly performative, I agree.

Everything is connected anymore.

Trump must not have heard Murray on Lex Friedman a week or so ago. He was pretty critical of Trump on a few things and even went so far as to say he would publicly apologize for supporting him if he didn’t change tact on those items.

Murray is hyperarticulate, sometimes spot on, but more often a cuck of the far right and their unnuanced agendas. He’s such a snob I can’t imagine he enjoys being in their company.

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His accent certainly isn’t helping the snob factor.

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i’m used to posh Brit, but there’s usually a laugh in there somewhere

Murray seems perpetually exhausted and peevish