He only got beat by a few Ethiopians and Kenyans. Thoughts?
its damn impressive
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He runs slower than most on Slowtwitch?
He might be as fast as Paul Thomas. Thomas ran a 13:59 track 5K (maybe before he started tris/dus). A 14:12 road 5K is pretty close to 14:00 for the track, at least 14:05. In any case, very impressive show of speed for a triathlete. Shoemaker won the Mayor’s Cup (big time east coast open cross country race) a few years back, so he knows how to run with the runners.
seat’s too high?
So he just knicked the 15 yr old kid that races in the tri kids division, impressive…Serious though, that is a great time for a full time triathlete…
He finished 14th and was the 3rd American.
I think he should run faster.
If he’d done 100 runs in 100 days, he’d have broken 14 . . .
My thought is here is a guy who could take U.S. duathlon to another level…maybe back to the heyday of Souza and Thomas.
No. I don’t care how well he swims. That is the kind of time that MIGHT make him competitive with the VanSteelants of the world.
Oh…and if he only got beat by a few of the Ethiopians and Kenyans…the rest of that crowd were all running somewhere else…like Charleston SC at the Cooper River Bridge Run. 14:12 is a cruise interval for those guys.
14:12 is a cruise interval for those guys.
Thank you. Finally someone putting things into perspective even if it is good for a triathlete.
1 Daba Bekana Ethiopia 13:19 4:17
2 Abreham Cherkos Ethiopia 13:19 4:18
3 Maregu Zewdie Ethiopia 13:24 4:19
4 Ali Abdosh Ethiopia 13:25 4:20
5 Collis Birmingham Australia 13:27 4:20
6 Anthony Famiglietti USA 13:28 4:21
7 Ibrahim Jeilen Ethiopia 13:30 4:21
8 Alistair Cragg Ireland 13:36 4:23
9 Haron Lagat Kenya 13:38 4:24
10 Scott Bauhs USA 13:56 4:29
11 Stephen Pifer USA 13:58 4:30
12 Shedrack Korir Kenya 14:01 4:31
13 Ben St Lawrence Australia 14:05 4:32
14 Jarrod Shoemaker USA 14:13 4:35
15 Seth Summerside USA 14:24 4:39
16 Matt Gabrielson USA 14:35 4:42
17 Mike Aish New Zealand 14:39 4:43
18 Erik Heurta Mexico 14:56 4:49
19 Youcef Abdi Australia 14:56 4:49
20 Scott Simpson Canada 15:07
Jarrod was actually the 4th American, as Fam finished 1st for the US, just off Marc Davis’ American record. And yes 7 “Africans” beat him, along with Cragg (former NCAA champion). Doesn’t really look like they were out for a cruise interval, though.
Eric
14:12 5K on the roads is flat rolling. Very impressive. You are correct though, if the East African teams wanted to, they could bring 50 guys that were under 14:00. In the Rotterdam marathon yesterday, they ran a 14:18 5K BETWEEN 30 and 35K during a GD marathon. That is sick, sick sick. It was an amazing finish as well.
You are correct though, if the East African teams wanted to, they could bring 50 guys that were under 14:00.
More like 500 if you look at the below link and add all the guys that ran slightly shorter and longer distances only.
Looking over the results it appears that perhaps something happened to the quality of the pro fields, men and women. Dan and I were talking about it yesterday, and that used to be a race where world records were broken, and many of the big names would be there. Of course that meant paying start money, hotels, plane flights, and prize money that would attract those types of runners. I dont have any first hand knowledge, but being under new ownership may have changed that dynamic. Happens all the time when new corporate ownership moves in, and looks really hard at the bottom line. I could see that pro budget being the first to go…15:38 I think it was for the women, I know triathlete girls that could have won that pro race, that is embarassing for a supposed world class 5k field…
“15:38 I think it was for the women, I know triathlete girls that could have won that pro race, that is embarassing for a supposed world class 5k field…”
Which pro triathletes would have won that race? Snowsill? 15:38 for women isn’t as bad as you make it sound.
Which pro triathletes would have won that race? Snowsill? 15:38 for women isn’t as bad as you make it sound. \
I know it is not a slow time, but I have been around that race for the past 20 years or so, and that is a slow time for the winner. Like I said, I’ve seen WR’s briken there many times. Carol Montgomery, Erin Baker, the Puntous twins, even Dan’s ex wife could all have been in the hunt of that race…That is the old retired guard, and of the new girls, like you said Snowsill, Fernandez, and a few others would been right up there too…Don’t you think a world class 5k time should be faster than good triathlete times??? Tha’s all I’m saying. I never was close to the women winners of that race when I did it, but I would have been in the hunt myself with my old times, and that really is not right…(-;
Carol Montgomery was there – she ran 18:27 (just kidding). I think women’s pro running in general is a joke so I’m not surprised that the winning time wasn’t anything special. Rowbury is a 1500 track runner so it’s not like she is one of the best 5K road racers either.
There’s no way that a professional male triathlete ever is going to be within a whiff of professional male runners. It’s just too competive and deep at the top of road racing and t&f to be training part-time and hand with guys like bekele or geb. However, with women, it’s so weak and shallow, someone like Carol Montgomery could make the Olympics in the triathlon AND the 10K.
There’s no way that a professional male triathlete ever is going to be within a whiff of professional male runners.\
While that is mostly true, and the women fields are a lot weaker in running than the men, there are a few guys over the years that could be in the MOP of big running races…Greg Whitley went a 13:38 I think for 5k, a lifeguard buddy of mine that raced ITU for the last 6 or so years Derek Kite could go near that speed, and I’m guessing that in his day, Simon WHitfield would have been sub 14 minute too. Have no idea what Gomez, or any of the other top 5 runners in ITU could do if they did a few month run focus, but I think they too would be sub 14 minute.
So there are a couple men that were out there, but a lot more women are closer to the weaker fields…
14 minutes for a 5K sounds nice, but in the big picture of running, it’s not even in the same zip code of the elites. the stanford invitational, which is an early season track meet in the US (March 28-29) and comprised mostly of collegiate runners, had 18 guys break 14 in the 5000.
the A standard for the 5000 in the olympics is 13:21.5 (B is 13:28). i really don’t see anyone who can be training full-time for olympic distance races who could switch over and run that time with all the swimming and biking required. there are guys, like whitfield, who may have been able to hit those times had they spent years training for it exclusively, but not as full-time triathletes. the women’s 5000 standards aren’t soft either 15:09/15:24. however, for the 10000, the women’s standards only are 31:45/32:20. i could see snowsill running 32:20 on the track off of her tri training. on the men’s side, it is 27:50/28:10 and i can’t see anyone running that fast off just tri training.