January 17, 1893

On Jan. 17, 1893, Hawaii’s monarchy was overthrown as a group of businessmen and sugar planters forced Queen Liliuokalani to abdicate.

NY Times article from that date (actually, Jan. 28, but they didn’t have CNN back then).

If you ask someone how many states are in the United States they’ll invariably say 50.

In reality there 43 States, 4 Commonwealths , 2 Republics and an illegally annexed Monarchy .

That is fascintating stuff. One question though. Isn’t part of being a State that it can organize its own form of State Government so long as the ideal of democracy is maintained? A Commonwealth, a Republic, a Confederation are all just different types of Government that offer representation for its citizens, but I think they meet the criterion for Statehood. After all, technically the U.S.A. is just an union of 50 individual States. Idealist…I know.

Bernie

Yep, but …

“Occupation does not legally change the national character of the occupied territory. As such, the laws of the Hawaiian Kingdom, as they existed previous to the failed revolution of 1893, continue to remain the Law of the Land, and Chapter II, section 6 of the Hawaiian Civil Code, provides: ‘The laws are obligatory upon all persons, whether subjects of this kingdom, or citizens or subjects of any foreign State, while within the limits of this kingdom, except so far as exception is made by the laws of nations in respect to Ambassadors or others. The property of all such persons, while such property is within the territorial jurisdiction of this kingdom, is also subject to the laws.’”

http://www.hawaiiankingdom.org/

If you are to what they were before being annexed by the USA and therefore becoming states, then yes… Republic of California lasted not even a month I believe.

No matter what, there are 50 states in USA.

Fred.

In reality there 43 States, 4 Commonwealths , 2 Republics and an illegally annexed Monarchy .

I’m pretty sure Texas ceased to be a Republic when it accepted admission to the Union as a state.

I think there may be some Texans who didn’t get the memo.

There are crazies in every State/Commonwealth/Republic/illegally annexed Monarchy.

Been reading up on the sovereignty movement in Hawaii? Its really not that popular, even with native Hawaiians. Very small (albeit vocal) minority.

I think there may be some Texans who didn’t get the memo.

No doubt, but at least it’s less than half.

They should start by fixing up the Royal “Palace” in Kona, the place is falling apart.

Hulihee Palace isn’t very palatial these days. Some might argue it never was, but when compared to a grass hut…

We should have annexed Puerto Rico and the Phillipines when we had the chance. A political blunder of the times.

Probably should have thrown in Panama while we’re at it.

Hawaii would be 100% owned by the Japanese if we had not taken over the place. Luckily the Japanese now only own 80% of HI.

Bishop Estate owns far more land in Hawaii than the Japanese.