ITU Votes Not to Sanction WTC Races: isn't that like your boss saying "you're fired" after you've already said "I quit"?

Last week the World Triathlon Corporation announced that they have formed the Global Triathlon Group (GTG) to sanction IronMan races, so today the ITU announce that they will no longer sanction IronMan races.

Isn’t that like your boss saying “you’re fired” after you’ve already said “I quit”?


**GAMAGORI, Japan (Sept. 11, 2005) - **In an unprecedented show of solidarity, International Triathlon Union member nations unanimously passed a resolution to no longer sanction Ironman races, on Friday at the annual ITU Congress in Gamagori, Japan.

ITU’s Executive Board asked the triathlon global community to consider the recent actions by the World Triathlon Corporation (WTC) to create a separate federation to self-govern, self-insure and self-regulate the Ironman series of races.

In the wake of USA Triathlon’s decision to remove its sanction of all Ironman races, ITU stated that the WTC’s move threatens the integrity of sports’ national federations and replaces the focus of building sport participation and exposure with a revenue generating model to turn profits.

“We must protect our collective interests,” said ITU President Les McDonald. “We must protect the intrinsic value that ITU and our collective members have in order to take triathlon and the multi-sport lifestyle to the next level of athlete development and exposure. If we do not do this, any organization with deep pockets can simply step in and create world championship series that have no global meaning.”

With the unanimous adoption of this resolution, the ability for WTC to place races in many ITU-member countries will be significantly hampered. Without the support of the national federation, host countries may not be able to secure government funding and insurance for individual events.

Of particular concern to the ITU members was whether the World Anti-Doping Agency’s rules and the United States Anti-Doping Agency’s jurisdiction would apply to WTC’s sanctioned races and participating athletes.

More than 120 countries have now joined USA Triathlon in its position against the Ironman program. The International Olympic Committee and national governments have developed a set of rules and regulations to give national federations the exclusive rights to host national championships in their counties and for international federations to host world championships.

The WTC has ignored that policy by creating a world championship series for its Ironman distance race and a new series of half-Ironman distance races. This has created an unfair playing field by allowing a profit-driven company to attack the domain that has been previously reserved for a single non-profit volunteer-based governing body.

“We appreciate and applaud the global support of our actions against WTC,” said USA Triathlon CEO Skip Gilbert. “They are making a mockery of the basic organizational parameters of global sports and their profit-driven motives will ultimately destroy the developmental pipeline that triathlon and all sports need to remain in the Olympic program.”

Well at least we agree here. Should be intersesting to see who wins this pissing contest. If we pick the winner based on the standard american method ($$) I’m betting on GTG.

Styrrell

While I don’t particulary like a lot of the stuff the ITU does, the whole GTG thing is fishy. It would be like the Execs at Enron apointing their own “non independent auditors” who are essentially on their payroll.

That being said, I was quite please with the GTG performance at Ironman LP.

Dev

Apples and oranges really. I realize that it’s hard to tell the difference, but the reality is the ITU is a small not-for-profit sports governing body. The WTC and the Ironman group of races is a private business enterprise.

Their has been friction between these two organizations for years. Nothing new here. This just seems to be the latest development in a battle that has been going on for a while.

Fleck

I’m waiting for ITU/USAT to give an ultimatum to the pros. If you do a WTC event, you will no longer be allowed to compete in USAT events or the Olympics. I suppose that USAT events will no longer have any pros in them at all. All it will do is give WTC to do the same with Olympic distance and sprint triathlons that they have done with the longer races

Over the short term, I don’t see this happening. The ITU could “ban” people from their races who have done an IM race, but the effect would be moot. The simple reason is that the reality today is that they are two seperate circuts, with two separate groups of athletes.

Group 1 - Focuses almost exclusivly on the ITI circut and does other independat short course races( eg Life Times Fitness et al)

Group 2 - Focuses almost exclusivly on the IM races and they do some Independant longer races, such as Wild Flower and some Independant shorter races.

Fleck

in that case ITU would have to develop a world circuit based on long course triathlon.

Okay… coming from a business school background here… my POV on this is that the dinosaur (ITU) thinks that b/c it thinks it has all the cards in it’s corner that it can make decree’s and what not and stagnat and never innovate. The private tech firm (WTC) needs to make a profit and therefore strives to deliever the best services while at the same time being the most efficient.

My money is on the innovator… not the NGO.

I have not been pleased with USAT’s performance over the last year or so.

As usual, the ITU doesn’t have a clue. The WTC has established races that thousands of people want to do every year. They have a very successful formula and now want to run a consistent set of rules for their product. They have a “world championship” race that many hold in much higher regard than what the ITU puts on. As far as I’m concerned the whole “athlete development” aspect of the ITU and many federations is a crock of poop too. Depending on what country you’re in there are some good athlete development programs but the ITU has been very slow to act on so many issues in the sport that they seem clueless. A classic example of this is the whole introduction of draft-legal racing. They come up with this concept to help make sure that the sport gets into the Olympics since dq-ing a whole bunch of the top pros or having 1-person break away and have a spread out field starting the run would not help sell the product. This change differentiated the sport from the grass-roots individuals that support it and completley changed the type of athlete that would do well in international competitions. It took them way too many years to pick courses like Athens where being a strong rider would have any significance at all in the outcome. I also think that their threats about insurance etc. are hollow since the WTC will easily be able to find someone willing to insure every race without the support of any national federations. Given the choice of travelling to Australia to race long-course worlds as an age-grouper compared to IM Western Australia/ IM Australia or IM New Zealand I would bet on the WTC race getting the nod from the majority of athletes.

Yes, or it is like the NCAA saying they will no longer “sanction” the NFL champion as World Champ.

They are apples and oranges because the ITU has the Olympics (if they didn’t have that they would probably be dead) and GTG has Ironman and long distnace non-drafting events.

In the end, I just want to race, at a safe race. Along with rules that are consitent fom event to event.

I think the ITU sucks. Les MacDonald is a very bad person IMHO. While he HAS got a form of triathlon into the Olympics, I believe he has cut the heart and soul out of our sport. Thankfully he and his ITU cronies have only ruined the short distance sport.

ITU, as sanctioed by the IOC, is not some loving benevolent society. The IOC is a for profit organization interested in self preservation. The ITU is also not some benevolent society. The IOC (and ITU) have every right to govern and sanction races they preside over. I do not believe they have teh right to govern sports outside their arena (specifically draft free IM distance racing). The IOC does not govern skateboarding etc because skateboarding is not an Olympic sport. IM is not an Olympic sport so I see no reason whe the IOC (through the ITU) should necessarily govern IM racing. Besides, IM racing existed long before the ITU so if anything, the Olympics triathlon should follow WTC (GTG) rules not the other way round!

While I’m not completely in favour of WTC (they allow too many people into many of their races, then penalize people for drafting) at least they have banned drafting. I applaud WTC for going their own way, having a standard set of rules around the world and most importantly for thumbing their noses at the ITU and IOC.

The IOC is a very secretivie, for profit organization and the WTC (GTG) is a much more openly for profit group. By the rules of supply and demand, the WTC is accountable to US (IM racers) while the ITU has no accountability. Certainly not with Adolph MacDonald running the show.

For years I have wanted a rival governing body (similar to boxing) and I am overjoyed to see that it has finally come to fruition. Congratulations to WTC. I think all us international IM racers will get a better event and experience at the races we do, because of it.

Support the WTC and let them know that you are on their side (if you are)

I think the ITU sucks. Les MacDonald is a very bad person IMHO. While he HAS got a form of triathlon into the Olympics, **I believe he has cut the heart and soul out of our sport. **Thankfully he and his ITU cronies have only ruined the short distance sport.

everyone can have is own opinion. the problem is how many of you had the chance to compete in a world cup race or international race with drafting. Not many unfortunatly. It s fun…it s a lot of fun, it s a different kind of racing and it s really hard. these races are so competitive more than any ironman (except hawaii). It give the athlete the chance to developpe different skills and no…you cant be a weak biker and win…you have to be a great cyclist to be able to hang in the group and run fast after…these bike rides are hell…maybe it dosnt look like it but it is i really enjoy racing the world cup races…got my ass kick often and i enjoy racing ironman…and got my ass kick also…they are just 2 different events and they are both amazing races… come to victoria and meet with the amazing group that is training out here…and you will discover another world…the world of short course drafting …a lot of amazing athlete out here and i dont think we are suffering from the lost of soul and heart of our sport

I think the ITU holds about as much interest for the non-Worlds obsessed triathlete as a pork sandwich has for a Muslim.

T.

“”“at least they have banned drafting”“”"

Thats a hollow ban on drafting. They might have banned it, but they still allow it.

“IM is not an Olympic sport so . . .”

I see this being said more and more like Ironman is it’s own seperate sport. I thought it was all swim/bike/run and we call it triathlon.

Fleck

come to victoria and meet with the amazing group that is training out here…and you will discover another world…the world of short course drafting

We can’t really ‘discover’ another world except from a spectator standpoint because draft-legal racing is not available to the general population. Europeans like drafting in tri’s because of their strong tradition in bicycle racing–it is the natural thing to do. American’s tend to be less sympathetic for that sort of thing, though many of them don’t have a problem drafting in non-drafting races if they want to go faster.

ITU has the same problem as USAT in that they spend way too much of their time worrying about races that only a very small percentage of racer in which elite racers can participate.

Chad

Fleck,

Great point. Apparently some think IM racing is now it's own sport not related to triathlon. Oh, wait, a square is still a rectangle and an IM race is still a triathlon.  

I don’t race either ITU style races or IM races, but it’s all with the person as to which type of racing is preferred. Honestly, I think ITU style racing much more exciting. IM racing you see someone take off on the swim, an hour or so later you see them bike past, 5 hours later you see them go past again, 3 hours later you see them finish. It just seems really like a waste of a day to spectate if you ask me.

Itu style you see the racers every 15-20 mins AND you often times see a great sprint to the finish line like the world championships this past weekend if anyone caught them. Great race and great coverage.

Since we know that the ITU cannot pull its head out of a brown paper bag, but WTC can…I think I will call the WTC and work with Welch, Paula and Ritticello to establish the Ironman 32.1 world series (1.5 K swim, 40K bike, 10K run).

The World Championships will be at Hilton Head Island South Carolina in November, and we’ll have a 32.1 race in every major US City…oh sorry, I forgot, that was the old USTS from 1985. I got stuck in a time warp. Forget about this post :slight_smile:

Welch, Paula and Ritticello
Looks like your first Edit didn’t quite get there Dev :slight_smile:
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