It's in his Kick

OK…so I have been preaching to you to save your legs for the bike and run. But if you still want to know why swimmers swim fast and non-swimmers don’t, I just had to share this blog I wrote for our Race Club website Aquanotes. Enjoy

IT’S IN HIS KICK……

So I am swimming along in practice this morning, catching my breath between some short rest intervals, when I overheard the two women Fighting Manatees (our Masters team) in the lane next to me asking each other why I was able to go so fast. “I dunno”, one of them said…”but I think it is in his kick”.
The next few 50’s I spent pondering the comment, when suddenly, it dawned on me that I had heard those very words spoken in a song before.
I am dedicating this song to all of the swim coaches out there who believe, like I do, that the real secret weapon to fast swimming is in the legs. And to all those Masters swimmers and Triathletes who can’t quite figure out why they don’t swim as fast as the swimmer who started at age 6. And of course to the all of the great-swimmer wanna-be’s who were not blessed with big feet, flexible ankles or hyperextended knees.

Next time you are socializing on your kickboard, instead of gabbing with your lane partner, get your entire workout group to belt out this tune, sung to the lyrics of the famous oldie but goodie, It’s in his Kiss, by Betty Everett.

DOES HE SWIM FAST, I WANNA KNOW
HOW CAN I TELL THAT HE DON’T SWIM SLOW

IS IT IN HIS PULL? OH NO YOU’D BE DECEIVED
OR IN HIS HIGH ELBOW? OH NO HE’LL MAKE BELIEVE
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHY HE DON’T SWIM SLOW
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS. OH YEAH

OR IS IT IN HIS HIPS? OH NO THAT’S JUST HIS BUM
OR HIS DETERMINED LIPS? OH NO THAT’S JUST FOR FUN
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHY HE DON’T SWIM SLOW
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS
OH OH IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS

OH OH OH DRILL HIM, AND FILM HIM TOO
AND FIND OUT WHAT YOU WANNA KNOW-0-0
IF HE’S FAST. IF HE’S REALLY FAST, IT’S THERE IN HIS KICK

HOW ‘BOUT THE WAY HE STROKES? OH NO, THAT’S NOT THE WAY
AND YOU’RE NOT LISTENIN’ TO ALL I SAY
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHY HE DON’T SWIM SLOW
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS. OH YEAH
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS

OH OH OH DRILL HIM, AND FILM HIM TOO
AND FIND OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW-0-0
IF HE’S FAST, IF HE’S REALLY FAST, IT’S THERE IN HIS KICK

HOW ‘BOUT THE WAY HE STROKES? OH NO, THAT’S NOT THE WAY
AND YOU’RE NOT LISTENIN’ TO ALL I SAY
IF YOU WANNA KNOW WHY HE DON’T SWIM SLOW
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WERE IT IS. OH YEAH
IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS
OH OH IT’S IN HIS KICK. THAT’S WHERE IT IS.

Yours in Swimming,

Gary Sr.

Wow, GHS I think you have way too much time on your hands:) Just kidding but you hear so much about how triathletes should ‘save their legs’ during the swim in order to be fresh for bike/run. I’m not necessarily a proponent to that theory but what are your thoughts on how you should use the kick during training/racing- beats, intensity, drills to strengthen kick, etc. Also, what is a good way to work on having power of kick coming from hips/core instead of just fluttering your feet? Thanks

So is that a long, drawn out, cryptic way of not saying what most fast swimmers have in common regarding their kick?

For all of those who thought they would read a post by the great GHS and learn something beyond how clever he is here you go:

  1. Most successful swimmers utilize an even kick frequency, that is a 2, 4 or 6 beat kick.
  2. All have proper kick timing, in sync with the arms.

Alright Gary, throwing it back to you. Why don’t you truly make yourself useful here and expand on those thoughts.

Man…this is a serious group. If you were trying to make the Olympic swim team…you’d better have a strong kick. Since you are not, you are far better off concentrating on the front of your stroke (EVF), the stroke rate (increase) and the rotation of the body (hip and shoulder)…especially if you have a wetsuit on. Even salt water does a great job of floating up your legs and body. Shirley Babashoff, back in my day, swam almost as fast as the women today with a 2 beat kick…but a stroke rate around 100.
There is no 4 beat kick BTW. You either use 2 beat…which is a non-kick or 6 beat which can be serious or very soft. There are some rare swimmers who use a 6 beat kick on on arm pull and then followed by a 2 beat kick for the other, however. Whatever kick you use whether fast or slow, don’t bend too much in the knees…kick from the upper leg or hip down.

Gary

In other words make your kick tight, fast and narrow, or as Stanford coach Skip Kenney used to say, kick like your feet are inside a bucket. Gary

I remember Shirley B…, we used to call her stroke the crab stroke. Very high turnover and appeared to be a very wide stroke. I got to do ocean races against her two brothers Jack and Bill, two more forgotten legands of that era…

The kick stuff is great, what triathletes are failing to realize is that even though it is not important to kick in races, it is a real benifit to know how to kick, and have it in shape. Just because you don’t use something in a race does not mean it is not of some benifit…We all know that everyone kicks somewhat, and if you have legs that are devoid of any conditioning in that area then it could hamper you later on the bike and run…

Personally I do 20% of my workouts these days kicking, but really hard kick sets that are also conditioning. Besides getting my legs in shape, I believe it is a recupertative exercise from cycling and running. Many of the old great pros felt the same way and spent many a yard/meter on a kickboard…

Anyway thanks for sharing your thoughts and expirences, since Doug Stern left us, there has been a void in the swim dialogue here, and your posts have revived that enthusiam that has been pent up here…

Hello garyhallsr and All,

And of course Cole Porter:

My story is much too sad to be told,
but practically everything
leaves me totally cold.
The only exception i know is the case,
when i’m out on a quiet spree,
fighting vainly the old enui
and i suddenly turn and see,
your fabulous kick.

I get no kick from Champagne
Mere alchohol doesn’t thrill me at all
so tell me why should it be true
that i get a kick
out of you

Some get a kick from cocain
i’m sure that if i took even one sniff
that would bore me terrificly too
yet i get a kick out of you

i get a kick every time i see you standing there before me
i get a kick though its clear to me you obviously don’t
adore me

I get no kick in a plane
Flying too high
with some guy in the sky is my idea of nothing to do

Yet i get a kick
Out of you

And yeah - I need to work on my kick …

Poor Kick: If your foot flexes to less than 90 degrees, it is necessary to bend at the knees to get the foot to an angle that will push you forward. Bending at the knees causes enough additional drag to cancel out the forward force produced by the kick. For the amount of effort kicking takes, this kick is not worth using.


Fair Kick: If your foot flexes to 90 degrees or slightly more, you will have a moderately propulsive kick. The knee must bend a little to make the kick work but it provides enough propulsion to be worthwhile using. For this swimmer, it is often necessary to keep the calf muscle contracted so the foot flexes forward far enough to produce maximum propulsion. This may result in cramping in the calf, but it lets you go faster. It works best for sprints and is less effective for longer swims.


Great Kick: If your foot flexes to significantly more than 90 degrees, very little knee bend is needed to kick. As the foot kicks against the water, the pressure from the water against the top of the foot keeps the foot flexed forward. The calf muscles need not be used. The blood flow which would have gone to the calf muscles is then free to be used in the upper body. This kick causes very little drag and generates excellent propulsion.
Foot range of motion can be increased through stretching. For each degree you gain past 90 degrees, the amount of forward force you produce with each kicking movement increases and the effort required to kick decreases. In essence, you get more propulsion for less work. The swimmer with great plantar flexion may not only go faster, he/she may not even be working quite as hard. Life is not always fair. Ankle Stretching Swimmers have been stretching ankles for a long time. I used to stretch mine by bending them under a couch. World record holder Jeff Rouse uses his body weight (photo #1), rolling back on his feet to stretch. Classical ballet dancers have been using simple boards with straps attached for decades to stretch feet.

There are two areas where stretching is possible: the ankle joint and the joints down farther in the foot, the tarsal-metatarsal joints. These joints are the most difficult to stretch, a limit being reached by many after a fairly small improvement. Stretching the tarsal-meta-tarsal joints allows the bottom portion of the foot to move to a better position, further improving the kick.

Stretching Exercises Ankle joint: Soak ankles and feet in hot water (108 to 118 degrees Fahrenheit) for several minutes. Adjust the strap on a board so that it fits snugly over instep. Sit on foot and slowly slide the board away from you by straightening the leg. This will begin to stretch the joint. The more force you use to straighten the leg, the more stretching force you will put on the joint. Begin gradually, using low force. Stretch each foot for 45 seconds to one minute. Stretch every other day. Gradually, over a period of several weeks, increase the amount of time per foot, the force levels and the number of days per week.
For the first couple of weeks, you will have some tenderness on the underside of the ankle joint. After this passes, you can significantly increase stretching force and duration.


Tarsal-metatarsal stretch: Place foot in the strap attatched to a board so the strap runs over the lower portion of the foot, just above the toes. It is usually necessary to tighten the strap a little. Stretch this area the same way you stretched the ankle joint.
Once you increase ankle range of motion, your kick will change. You will kick with a straighter leg and your foot will move up and down a shorter distance but will move faster. This new kicking movement greatly increases the use of hip flexor muscles. Specific stretching and strengthening exercises are needed to help the hip flexor muscles stand up at this increased demand.


Hip flexor stretch: Place your left leg on a chair (photo #4) while supporting yourself with a hand on the chair back. To stretch, bend the right knee, allowing your body weight to press down on your right leg. As you press down, also lean your torso back. This places excellent stretching forces on the hip flexor muscles.
Move into this stretch gradually so you do not injure or pull any portions of the muscles being stretched. Hold this position 60 to 90 seconds per leg. Do both legs. Do three to four times per week. Hip Flexor Strengthening In the deep end of the pool, kick (with fins) in a vertical position. Warm up with a couple of minutes of easy kicking. Then, kick hard for 30 seconds followed by a 20 second rest. Keep you legs straight while kicking. This isolates the hip flexor muscles. You will feel the muscles working in the front of your pelvis. If you allow the knees to bend, the hip flexors work less and the quadriceps muscles work more. Try kicking both ways and you will notice the difference. Begin with 1 x 30- or 2 x 30-second kicking periods with rests in between. Over a period of several weeks, work up to eight to 10 periods of 30-second versicle kicking. Do this three times per week.

When will you improve? This often depends on the range of motion of your foot when you begin. Many swimmers notice some benefits within one to two weeks. If you stretch aggressively and regularly, you will improve for many weeks. The versicle kicking exercises will start to pay off in two to three weeks.


**Marty Hull is a top Masters swimmer and a consultant to the Stanford University Swim Team. **


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When we do kick sets, should we be using kickboards?

I seriously suck at kicking. I do maybe 6 x 100 and that is the hardest part of my swim set. At the end of each 100 I am gasping. I don’t use a kickboard. I kick on my side. In theory I alternate which side I am kicking on, but I am much more comfortable on the side I breathe on and so do about 4 or 5 out of 6 sets on that side. Should I be kicking more? It feels like anything but recuperative to me!!

Kickboards have two interesting secondary effects:

  1. They let you breathe as much as you want to whenever you want to, which is nice when you’re using a kick set in part as a recovery set

  2. They force you to learn how to use abs/core and general good torso positioning in order to pull your hips up instead of just relying on head position, even if you’re kicking with a half board in a fairly low profile sort of way.

I’ve been preaching this on vertually every swimming thread for a couple of years, perhaps now folks will understand the importance of the kick. While a six beat kick may not be necessary, an efficieny kick is. Triathletes will continue to swim slowly until they start placing more kick sets into their workouts.

I’ve been preaching this on vertually every swimming thread for a couple of years, perhaps now folks will understand the importance of the kick. While a six beat kick may not be necessary, an efficieny kick is. Triathletes will continue to swim slowly until they start placing more kick sets into their workouts.

Well I sense a little frustration here…so props to you for having informed us slow folk of this fact for the past couple of years. Just a thought here, other than one notable exception, it seems people on this forum have some idea who Gary Hall Sr. is, so maybe they are willing to listen when he speaks about swimming. Maybe you could tell us a little about your background so that we might also listen a little more closely to you. I seem to recall you have made comments which might lead one to believe you were also an Olympic swimmer at one time.

I agree with what you’re saying, because I have compared myself to someone who is arguably the top Masters swimmer in the UK, and concluded it’s his kick that makes him faster than me. I take 1:40 to do 100m kick, he can do it in 1:12. If I wear fins, I can do 100m kick in 1:12, so I make the assumption that if I wear fins while swimming full stroke, I can see how much faster I’d be if I had his kick. If I swim 100m full stroke with fins, it takes 7 seconds off my 100m free time, which is exactly the difference between our race times.

There are other people faster than me, whose kick times I’ve found out from asking people who’ve trained with them, and universally they all seem to do pretty quick times for kick sets.

However, I have been through periods where I’ve done lots of kick in training, and I just don’t get any faster at it, so I have no idea at all what to do about it! And now I’ve taken up cycling, and massively increased my cycling power output, what has it done for my swimming kick? Absolutely nothing.

Focus on your stroke rate, EVF and aerobic fitness to get faster in the water! Gary

There is no 4 beat kick BTW. You either use 2 beat…which is a non-kick or 6 beat which can be serious or very soft.
Gary

Now you’re starting to make up (or perpetuate) myths of your own. There is MOST DEFINITELY a 4-beat kick. It is defined as follows:

There are some rare swimmers who use a 6 beat kick on on arm pull and then followed by a 2 beat kick for the other, however.
Gary

And it’s not at all rare. There are also a few truly “rare” swimmers that do a 4-beat kick by kicking twice with the right foot and then twice with the left foot.

And to characterize the 2-beat as a “non-kick” is to perpetuate another hugely misleading myth. People who use a properly formed and timed 2-beat derive tremendous benefit from it. For too long conventional wisdom in swimming has regarded people who use a 2-beat as kicking ineffectively.

By the way, in the thread from myth #5, you characterized Brooke Bennett as having a 6-beat kick, which is not the case. She has a funky variation on a 2-beat, which you might actually call a 3-beat (although it is more like a 2.5 beat). In the video below you can see her deliver 1 large kick with her left foot, then what looks to be a small kick with the same foot, then a quick kick with her right foot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsZnxwjPzck

I disagree. Brooke has a 6 beat kick with kicks at different magnitudes of force. If you look carefully, you’ll see one large kick (the left leg actually looks a bit stronger than the right) followed by two little flicks with each foot. The strongest kick with each leg comes right after the entry of the opposite hand, which is part of the connection and counter-rotational force. Although these flicks are of arguable power, they are different than what one sees in a two beat kick.
If you were to film Brooke on the last lap, you would likely see her up the power of these ‘flick’ kicks.
Curiously, in this video, you see all three types of kick. On this side of Brooke you see a pure two beat kick (even with a stroke rate slower than Brooke’s) and on the other side, you see a girl switching from 2 beat to 6 beat.
BTW, you are right. It is not fair to characterize a 2 beat kick as a non-kick. One does derive power, lift, and stabilizing force, even from a 2 beat kick.

Gary

Love the tips, Gary. Keep 'em coming. I especially like that you’re not afraid to “buck the common knowledge” to point out things that might be taken for granted (like the kick for triathletes.)

I definitely get your message re: kicking, and since I’m a lousy swimmer, will keep it in mind after I fix up my stroke count and EVF.

In the meanwhile, most have probably seen these vids of another poster, TJFry, who I think has an awesome 2-beat kick and goes fast with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAkzF7fPWv4

And to see this guy outswimming the ITU pros back in the day where he leads all pros out of the water:

http://badig.com/about/

My favorite kicking is on my back, arms over head with hands clasped and dolphin kicking. A few hundred yards of this whips me.

I’ve been preaching this on vertually every swimming thread for a couple of years, perhaps now folks will understand the importance of the kick. While a six beat kick may not be necessary, an efficieny kick is. Triathletes will continue to swim slowly until they start placing more kick sets into their workouts.

Well I sense a little frustration here…so props to you for having informed us slow folk of this fact for the past couple of years. Just a thought here, other than one notable exception, it seems people on this forum have some idea who Gary Hall Sr. is, so maybe they are willing to listen when he speaks about swimming. Maybe you could tell us a little about your background so that we might also listen a little more closely to you. I seem to recall you have made comments which might lead one to believe you were also an Olympic swimmer at one time.

I’m also not selling anything, just passing along the tips to others so perhaps they could be faster…you missed out 5 time national champ, 2 time world record holder…anyways, an efficient kick is like holding onto the handlebars on your bike. Doesn’t provide any propulsion, but provides a stable environment for a more efficient and faster activity.

For those of us with blocks of wood for feet… :slight_smile:

It went away and you come around
and bother me every swim
when I couldn’t keep up with you
you said the kick’s the only thing

     Well

My Wetsuits back and you’re gonna be in trouble
Hey La hey la, my wetsuits back
If you see me coming, better kick out on the double
Hey La hey la, my wetsuits back
You been saying the kicks the only thing
Hey La hey la my wetsuits back
Look out now cos we’re float’n right on in
Hey La hey la my wetsuits back

… and so on

one large kick (the left leg actually looks a bit stronger than the right) followed by two little flicks with each foot.

Yeah, I spied those little stutter kicks, it makes a designation a little difficult, but even if you count the ones that you identify we have 5 kicks. An oddity for sure, but effective nonetheless.

The strongest kick with each leg comes right after the entry of the opposite hand, which is part of the connection and counter-rotational force.

And here is the gem that tells the whole story – timing and how that timing manifests itself in terms of the whole stroke… it IS in his(and her) kick, and be it 2, 4 or 6 beats this timing and counter-rotational connection is the back-beat of the song.