Issac Joule, Kuota Kalibur--Same Bike?

I was in Birmingham, England in February and saw very sexy all-carbon time trial/triathlon bike called an Issac Joule at a Birmingham LBS. It looks a lot like the old Guru Crono–you know the one with the integrated aero seat tube–but in carbon. A few months later, I see another bike called the Kuota Kalibur that is very similar. So I check both web sites out and the bikes’ are virtually identical. Does anyone out there “KNOW” if they are the same bike marketed under different names? Today I checked this link on frames sold at La Bicicletta in Toronto, Ontarion–not Vancouver, British Columbia–and they are selling both bikes. Check them out at this link:

http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/cad/tlsstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=Frames

The question stands are they the same bike?

Sorry, I don’t know for sure but it looks from the pictures that the seatstays are different. The Kuota’s seem to be flatter and wider, sort of like the Trek TT’s.

I was looking at a Kuota road bike at my local shop today (lucky local racing team got them cheap-cheap) and the shop guy told me some Kuota bikes have a 1-1/4 inch steerer (not 1-1/8’). Kinda funky, eh?

No,they are not the same bike the top tube comes out slightly longer on the medium. But, the two are very close and similar models.

A) Kuota is monocoque, I don’t think the Isaac is.
2) The head tube on the Kuota is 1 1/8 at the top, 1 1/4 at the bottom.
Tres) Kaliber frame/fork is about 2500US, lots cheaper than the Isaac
IV) Isaac, part of Principia, is about tits-up.

I’m getting a Kaliber in soon for a local kid, I’ll report in when it’s built up.
-b

What I want to know is. . .if all these other new kids on the block building cf bikes can make cf aero posts to fit their proprietary frame needs. . .Why in the hell am I saddled with this boat anchor from Kestrel. . .hell, they are old school cf builders. You’d think a decent multiposition cf post would be a simple piece of engineering for them. . .

Dear Bobo,

Kalibur is retail at about 2,500.00$ USD, including Monocoque Fork KR-1 (Aero) + Monocoque Aero seat post + FSA Orbit Headset. That bike is fast !!! I using a Kalibur size Large outstanding. Normann Staddler said that he only need a ingnition to fly as a Rocket !!!

http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/uploads/us_kuotakalibur04.jpg
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