I generally ride with an Aero water bottle plus two on the down tubes. With stations every 10 miles I am thinking this may be overkill and may lose the areo bottle. (I try to stay areo as much as possibly but in reality I am up quite often so reaching for a bottle is no big deal). Regardless of which one, should I lose one of the bottles for an IM and only go with 2?
Seems to be overkill. At IMAZ I ran 1 bottle GE & 1 bottle H20 - never ran out of either.
One aero bottle for water, one bottle on the bike for Infinit mix. Refill the water as needed from the aid station.
One aero bottle for water, one bottle on the bike for Infinit mix.
So is that a bottle of concentrated Infinit?
This is my plan for IMLou. My question is what is your Infinit mix ratio? Does this mix last you the whole 112 miles?
Mix one for first half and put the other in special needs bag mixed accordingly to time on course.
one bottle mixed to last 3 hours and another at special needs. I’ve mixed a 5-6 hour bottle before with no ill effects, but since I use special needs for another treat, it allows me to mix it a little less concentrated and to return to my proven nutrition if I lose a bottle or something else happens.
One cage on the frame. With aid stations every 10 miles thats all I need. I keep Gatorade Endurance in the cage and get a new one every aid station. I also grab a water each aid station to take a big gulp down to help clense my palate. Sometimes I spray the rest of the water onto my body since it feels good. Then I discard the water bottle before leaving the aid station area. The water bottle never gets stored on my frame.
Using this strategy I am able to get more than enough hydration without making my bike super heavy. Carrying one 24 oz bottle at a time I get bike/rider weight plus up to 1.5 lbs of fluid. Those carrying two bottles on the frame plus an aero bottle get bike/rider weight plus up to 4.5 lbs of fluid. It’s ironic that many of the people spending hundreds of dollars to save a few grams then go and load their bike up with more fluids than they could consume before the next available aid station.
It also ensures that the fluids that you are consuming are cold. If you carry several bottles the later bottles will more than likely be warmer by the time you get to them on most courses.
Tough to get enough in one bottle for 112 miles. It would get a bit thick. Many go with 2 bottles, that seems to be the norm. About 800 calories per bottle seems to be the max.
Might want think about having a special race mix and dial the flavor all the way down. That was the flavor is not too strong when it is concentrated.
Hello InfiniT 1 and All,
Disregard the following for the One O One races since InfiniT is catered on those races.
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I am testing ‘InfiniT cubed’ as it is lighter to carry than a slurry of InfiniT. (total weight 100 grams - same as my custom InfiniT powder for 24oz bottle mix ) . For a drinkable slurry add 50 grams water per 100 grams powder for 150 grams total per serving.
It is easier to meter nutrition with cubes than powder - just count number of cubes per hour (or in my case one cube each 10 minutes) washed down with water from aid stations.
I will try other shapes - like cookie thick, wafer thin, jawbreaker, and so on to find to ones that disolve easily and still can be handled without fragmenting.
Directions for making cubes at home are easy and available on the Internet.
What is the history of the cube?
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“The was invented by Jakub Krystof Rad in 1841 in Dacice, Bohemia, after his wife had cut her hand badly trying to cut into a huge lump of sugar. He pondered the problem and several months after the incident he presented her with a gift-wrapped package which contained 350 red and white sugar cubes, which he had invented. There is a plaque to his memory in the town and it also boasts a big sugar cube made of granite in his memory. He must have been a very busy man as he fathered 16 children with his wife Julianna.”
Others have latched on to the cube idea … as in the following instance with Clif Shot Bloks.
… on the Clif website a user states: Further, Clif Bar & Co. expected me to munch these things down while running or riding near my athletic limits?
But, lo, after hesitantly popping a few in while training this winter, Margarita flavor Clif Shot Bloks have won my respect.
The dice-size gummy cubes—which, if you were wondering, contain no alcohol—are made to provide easy-to-eat energy while on the go, with 100 calories and 24 grams of carbohydrates in each pack of six. Ingredients include brown rice syrup, cane juice, carnauba wax, and coconut oil.
Sea salt is another ingredient, rendering a deep salty flavor with hints of lime and other fruits made to mimic a margarita with its salt-encrusted glass. Sounds disgusting, I know. But for me the flavor was oddly agreeable during work outs, where I often crave salty foods.
To ward off muscle cramping, many athletes take sodium supplements when working out or competing. Margarita Bloks—which contain 70 milligrams of sodium apiece—serve as a replacement or alternative to salt pills, according to Clif Bar & Co.
Beyond the Margarita flavor, the company www.clifbar.com has seven additional Bloks flavors, from lemon-lime to cola.
Clif Bar & Co. developed Bloks for athletes as a middle-ground option between sticky energy gels and chewy power bars. I’ve personally been quite pleased with the compromise.
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There are many machines for making cubes. http://www.patentstorm.us/...979-description.html
This describes one such machine:
The invention is a method of producing a fast dissolving, low fat bouillon cube which includes providing a bouillon powder. The powder has substantially no water added to it. A compression surface of a punch is cleaned with water, leaving a residue of water on the compression surface. A die is filled with bouillon powder and the bouillon powder within the die is compressed with the compression surface of the punch to form a low density fast dissolving bouillon cube.
In another embodiment, the invention is a method of producing a fast dissolving, low density bouillon cube. The method includes filling a hopper with a free-flowing bouillon powder. A compression surface of a punch is cleaned with water, thereby leaving a residue of water on the compression surface. The compression surface is movable within a four-sided die. The compression surface extends out of an open top when being cleaned. The compression surface is moved to form a bottom of the die and free-flowing bouillon powder from the hopper is then filled into the die. The compression surface is moved toward the top of the die, thereby compressing the powder against a compression member to form a low density, fast dissolving bouillon cube.
In another embodiment, the invention is a method of producing a fast dissolving low density bouillon cube. The cube is formed by applying a residue coating of water to an inside surface of a die, the inside surface defining a portion of a cavity formed by the die. The cavity of the die is filled with a free-flowing bouillon powder. A force of less than 3,000 pounds per square inch is applied to the powder, thereby forming a low density, fast dissolving bouillon cube.
What do you think?
Cheers,
Neal
I am in awe. Are you the person that invented crack? That is the coolest. I am going to have to play with it to check it out.
I will say that I like the idea because maltose is sticky stuff. In a solid it would be much cleaner to carry and mix on long rides as opposed to powder. Becasue of that it would be easier to make into cubes/cookies whatever shape you want.
A FYI along these same lines, those on our e-mail list will be getting the announcement that we are going to be offering single serving packs of their favorite custom formula. It will be a upcharge, but so many people have asked for it we descided to provide the option. That way you do not have to carry bags of white powder thru airports. LOL Just your single serve packs.
Seriously, that is great stuff. Thanks!!!
Michael
1 areo bottle ,no cages…fill as needed.at aid stations …
I ride with an aero bottle in front–only for water. On the downtube and rear bottle holder I keep 1 full bottle of my Perpetuem/Carbo Pro combo at normal or a little more than normal concentrate. This will last about 2 hours if you hydrate properly.
I also keep up to 2 more bottles at the same concentrate, BUT I keep them dry and fill them up WHEN I have used the previous bottle. I just keep the cap a little loose–not too loose–and refill with water.
This way, my bike stays light and I have enough calories.
Good luck.