Interesting stats on Atheists and Believers in the prison population

(Originally published in 2006 - Schlapp’s theories of the origin of criminality have met with harsh criticism, but I’ve found no evidence to suggest the numbers below are inaccuate.)

** Atheists Supply Less Than 1% of the Prison Population **

In “The New Criminology”, Max D. Schlapp and Edward E. Smith say that two
generations of statisticians found that the ratio of convicts without
religious training is about 1/10 of 1%. W. T. Root, professor of
psychology at the Univ. of Pittsburgh, examined 1,916 prisoners and said
“Indifference to religion, due to thought, strengthens character,” adding
that Unitarians, Agnostics, Atheists and Free-Thinkers are absent from
penitentiariers or nearly so.

During 10 years in Sing-Sing, those executed for murder were 65% Catholics,
26% Protestants, 6% Hebrew, 2% Pagan, and less than 1/3 of 1% non-religious.

Steiner and Swancara surveyed Canadian prisons and found 1,294 Catholics,
435 Anglicans, 241 Methodists, 135 Baptists, and 1 Unitarian.

Dr. Christian, Superintendant of the NY State Reformatories, checked
22,000 prison inmates and found only 4 college graduates. In “Who’s Who”
91% were college graduates, and he commented that “intelligence and
knowledge produce right living” and that “crime is the offspring of
superstition and ignorance.”

Surveyed Massachusetts reformatories found every inmate religious, carefully
herded by chaplins.

In Joliet, there were 2,888 Catholics, 1,020 Baptists, 617 Methodists and
0 non-religious.

Michigan had 82,000 Baptists and 83,000 Jews in their state population.
But in the prisons, there were 22 times as many Baptists as Jews, and 18 times
as many Methodists as Jews. In Sing-Sing, there were 1,553 total inmates with
855 of them Catholics (over half), 518 Protestants, 177 Jews and 8 non-
religious. There’s a very interesting qualified statistic.

Steiner first surveyed 27 states, and found 19,400 Christians, 5,000 with
no preference, and only 3 Agnostics (one each in Connecticut, New Hampshire,
and Illinois). A later, more complete survey found 60,605 Christians, 5,000
Jews, 131 Pagans, 4,000 no preference, and only 3 Agnostics.

In one 29-state survey, Steiner found 15 unbelievers, Spirtualists,
Theosophists, Deists, Pantheists and 1 Agnostic among nearly 83,000 inmates.
Calling all 15 “anti-christians” made it one half person to each state.
Elmira reformatory overshadowed all, with nearly 31,000 inmates, including
15,694 Catholics (half), and 10,968 Protestants, 4,000 Jews, 325 refusing
to answer, and 0 unbelievers.

In the East, over 64% of inmates are Catholics. In the national prison
population they average 50%. A national census found Catholics 15%. They
count from the diaper up. Hardly 12% are old enough to commit a crime.
Half of these are women. That leaves an adult Catholic population of 6%
supplying 50% of the prison population.

Liverpool, England produces three percent as many young criminals as
Birmingham, a larger city, 28% coming from Catholic schools.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/american/prison.htm

So, are Atheists and Agnostics converting to a faith in prison, or are they less likely to end up incarcerated to begin with?

Are Catholics disproportionally violent?

Inconsequential correlation?

I think the study has some merit, however a lot of folks get religion once in the slammer…Even Paris Hilton found god in the few days she was in her minimum security hotel room…Perhaps prison is where god hangs out, makes sense if you are in the business of saving souls…

Didn’t we do this thread a year or two ago?

How do these numbers compare to the distributions of religions (or lack thereof) in the areas the prisoners are from?

The title of the article says that athiests supply 1% of the prison population. Numbers vary, but athiests make up about 3% of the population worldwide - less than that in N. America (where all of the numbers in the article come from).

So all that we’ve learned is that the percentage of athiests in prison in N. America is very slightly, if at all, lower than the percentage of athiests in N. America as a whole. Color me unimpressed.

It says 1/10th of 1%. But I’d venture to guess that its correlation in that, I believe, the more educated you are and the more $ you make, the more likely that you are to be an atheist or agnostic. People who are more educated and make more $ are less likely to wind up in prison.

Maybe, I don’t recall seeing it, though. Today is the first I’ve seen of these figures.

but athiests make up about 3% of the population worldwide - less than that in N. America (where all of the numbers in the article come from). ////

I’m not sure about your numbers here, I have heard that athiests and agnostics here in the US is in the 5% to 10% range. I would be suprised if it was lower than the 3% you quoted… Not sure where to find the stat, but I’m sure someone here on ST has the data…And as was already pointed out, it was 1/10 of 1% I believe, and of course the more one is educated, the more likley to be in that group. And I’m sure that there are stats that say that the more educated you are, the less likley you will end up in prison…

the more educated you are and the more $ you make, the more likely that you are to be an atheist or agnostic. People who are more educated and make more $ are less likely to wind up in prison.


Seems like the obvious explanation to me, although it doesn’t explain why Catholics are incarcerated disproportionate to their population size (relative to other incarcerated groups). I suspect it has more to do with psycho/socio/economic factors than anything, but it is curious nonetheless.

Color me unimpressed.

Slightly lower? Lets assume your 3% number (which I’m pretty sure is low). That is still 30 times higher that 0.1%. That’s not remotely “slightly.”

The questioned I’ve always wondered is are the inmates better off with religion. ie…you and I are no more likely to go to prison than Slowguy or Casey. Even if one of us were to convert one way or the other, we are all very unlikely to go to prison. However, would the inmates have done better or worse without the religion? I’ll contend that I see no reason to see their behavior improve by removing religion and that there is a chance that it improves with it. Maybe not for these guys in prison, but maybe that next tier of people who would have gone to prison had they not had religion.

Its hard to say. I think only correlation to be drawn is that it quelshes the false notion that without religion, a person loses incentive to “be good” and thus does bad things. Perhaps that is true for a lot of people, but it clearly shows that many get along just fne without it.

I’ll contend that I see no reason to see their behavior improve by removing religion and that there is a chance that it improves with it.

I’d like to know how many non-believers converted after incarceration. I’m guessing it’s a significant percent - probably higher than the percentage of professed non-believers. The foxhole effect, you could call it.

It’s because atheists know that when they’ve fucked up, they’ve fucked up, period. You can’t go confess. So you think one extra time before fucking up :slight_smile:

Simple explanation:

Athiests and agnostics are smarter than religious people and therefore less likely to get caught.
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 The prisons are one of the most fertile grounds for conversions to Nation of Islam.  Apparently the message fits well with those who feel disenfranchised, and serves to empower as well as giving esteem from a source outside the mainstream...all things that appeal to many inmates.  At any rate, I'd imagine there is much in the way of conversion to many religions, and I have known various Christian churches to do prison ministry as well.

By and large the stats show they are Christian.

Nevertheless, like sphere said, they could be converts after the fact.

 The reality is that most probably default to the religion of their family, if they were raised by Catholic parents, even if they never cared at all, they would probably self identify as Catholics.  It would be interesting to see actual conversion rates, and to which religions.

I’m certain that good catholics could make a point that even if someone was baptized, went to church every sunday, confessed regularly, prayed often, but killed someone once, or raped, or stole, then he can’t really be a good christian, and he must be an atheist with no moral values.
So, the whole prison population is composed only of pagans, atheists and muslims…

This is anecdotal, and I have no data, but I know that my in-laws (Devout Catholics-Church 8-9 times a week, lead prayer groups…) spend 1 or 2 days a week at the local jails. I’m not sure what their conversion rate is, but I do know that they have converted some inmates to Catholicism.

But have they converted the inmates into good persons? That’s really all I care about…

How do these numbers compare to the distributions of religions (or lack thereof) in the areas the prisoners are from?

The title of the article says that athiests supply 1% of the prison population. Numbers vary, but athiests make up about 3% of the population worldwide - less than that in N. America (where all of the numbers in the article come from).

So all that we’ve learned is that the percentage of athiests in prison in N. America is very slightly, if at all, lower than the percentage of athiests in N. America as a whole. Color me unimpressed.
Athiest or “no religion” is 15% globally. The US is around 10%. In Canada it is was 28% in the 2001 census (an increase from 11% in 1991). In BC no religion makes up 35% of the population and is the largest group in the 2001 census.