He competed in Challenge Cesenatico yesterday. First OA age grouper.
Another Ligandrol case from the ITA:
Pretty interesting if this athlete also uses the âbodily fluidsâ explanation.
And sheâs only 17.
Guys guys, remember, this was just a metabolite and itâs trace amounts and no one would ever inject metabolites in their body for performance gains in such small quantities.
yeah so basically the amount found in her body was like a cup of tea in a 50m swimming pool. wtf!!! so ive got no idea how such a small amount could be in the body!!!
This. Not even sure if metabolites of a SARM can be artificially synthesised.
Or is this a play on the verb âinjectâ?
Ive said it once Ive said it a million times-metabolites can stay in you system in tiny tiny amounts for well over 12 months. All these cheats google âhow long is drug xyz in your systemâ and see it might only be a couple of days, failing to realise that they will test positive for the metabolites for far longer. Then they are shocked when they get caughtâŚ
Yeah, pretty sure @waverider101 was being sarcastic here
I am led to believe that the hearing hasnât happened yet and that she will probably miss the whole season.
I suspect the latter, I think you might be the only in this thread approaching this affair without an ounce of skepticism
There might be a very committed boyfriend in Venezuela right now ingesting potentially harmful and unresearched substances right now.
Like someone said back in March; looks like she didnât ask for an expedited hearing, and sheâs now missed two T100s.
Like I said way back when, she would have had no grounds for an expedited hearing (designed for pre-Olympics or pre-World Champs - I shared the pertinent text). @Sheridan Tris leads us to believe the hearing has not yet taken place, so even if âno faultedâ sheâll miss Vancouver as well: so thatâs three T100s missed.
Anyone know if sheâs still with the guy? If heâs taking the dive for her, sheâs kind of hitched her wagon to him for the next few years.
If he really is responsible here, at this point their relationship would have to be at the breaking point for him to abuse her professional reputation in such a manner.
This isnât true. Significant competition is anything that is professional. Otherwise she could compete while under provisional suspension in T100 since this does not lead to national selection. This is a choice she has made. Sheâs not getting no faulted at this point.
8.1 Fair Hearings
For any Person who is asserted to have committed an
anti-doping rule violation, the Anti-Doping Organization
with responsibility for Results Management shall provide,
at a minimum, a fair hearing within a reasonable time by
a fair, impartial and Operationally Independent hearing
panel in compliance with the WADA International Standard
for Results Management. A timely reasoned decision
specifically including an explanation of the reason(s) for
any period of Ineligibility and Disqualification of results
under Article 10.10 shall be Publicly Disclosed as provided
in Article 14.3.
52
So now weâre in the space of what is a reasonable time, but that does not stop her from having a right to an expedited hearing as these become âevent basedâ. So Is there an event within 10 days? No there is not. But there is one in 16 days which gets us to:
7.4.3 Opportunity for Hearing or Appeal
Notwithstanding Articles 7.4.1 and 7.4.2, a
Provisional Suspension may not be imposed
unless the rules of the Anti-Doping Organization
provide the Athlete or other Person with: (a) an
opportunity for a Provisional Hearing, either before
the imposition of the Provisional Suspension
or on a timely basis after the imposition of the
Provisional Suspension; or (b) an opportunity for
an expedited hearing in accordance with Article 8
on a timely basis after imposition of a Provisional
Suspension. The rules of the Anti-Doping
Organization shall also provide an opportunity for
an expedited appeal against the imposition of a
Provisional Suspension, or the decision not to
impose a Provisional Suspension, in accordance
with Article 13.
https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/2021_wada_code.pdf
all the more reason to double rubber or use the pull out method
Thank you: and âyesâ what is timely?
It did sound in late February as if the facts had been if not established then asserted. And the wheels grind slow.
TSB: âThis isnât true. Significant competition is anything that is professional.â
Joining you on a dance on the head of a pin with regard to the option of an âexpedited hearingâ I maintain this was not an option (what is âtruthâ) as itâs designed for âon the eve of a major Eventâ - the first race of a year long world tour is not a major Event (definition of âEventâ supplied, below, with examples).
8.2 Event Hearings
Hearings held in connection with Events may be conducted
by an expedited process as permitted by the rules of the
relevant Anti-Doping Organization and the hearing panel.Footnote 53
#53 [Comment to Article 8.2: For
example, a hearing could be expedited
on the eve of a major Event where
the resolution of the anti-doping rule
violation is necessary to determine
the Athleteâs eligibility to participate
in the Event or during an Event where
the resolution of the case will affect
the validity of the Athleteâs results or
continued participation in the Event.]
Appendix 1: Definitions
Event: A series of individual Competitions conducted together
under one ruling body (e.g., the Olympic Games, World
Championships of an International Federation, or Pan American
Games).
TSB: âSheâs not getting no faulted at this point.â
No Fault or Negligence: The Athlete . . establishing
that he or she did not know or suspect, and could not reasonably
have known or suspected even with the exercise of utmost
caution, that he or she had Used or been administered the
Prohibited Substance . . . . . . the Athlete must also establish how the Prohibited Substance entered the Athleteâs system.
well at this stage she has and will effectively been out of the sport for 6 month and i would say that really matters. even if she is cleared she wont get back those 6th month.
and yes she is temporally faulted at this point, unless she can proof her innocence. ( which she might well do) but currently she is provisionally suspended for a failed drug test , and its guilty until she can proof her innocence. and officially announced by anti doping agency.
the t100 is a WorldChampionships of an International Federation so she would fullfil the emergency ruling clause ( or would you disagree with that ? )
i guess what will happen is she will be cleared but they agreed on a 6 month no racing which is why this is dragged out so long ?
ie she had the financial resources and i cant why she would not push for the emergency meeting and i would guess a deal has been done .
she can say she was cleared of all wrong doing , ironman can say a failed drug test has a serious consequences. ie. 6 month of no racing.
at the end of the day they have to make it harder for people to play the body fluid card or my physio used something i had no idea he did.
You donât seem to understand here that the event organizer is the one who solicited the services of the ITA, considering that the event organizer was Ironman in this case. If we take your definition (which isnât accurate) then the provisional suspension would only bar from World Championships. It doesnât.
Iâve been in this space and dealt with provisional suspensions of athletes more than a few times. Scheduling a hearing timeframe is all based on what they want, not what the anti-doping agency wants. They would prefer you accept the suspension up front and have no hearing.
Clear at this point she either knows she was caught OR theyâre spending a crap ton of money on lab testing? Yet she admits it was in a supplement (listed under an alternate name) that her boyfriend was taking.
That is a convenient excuse btw.
Since Ironman is the event organizer for this test, you could do the mental gymnastics I suppose and she wouldnât get a hearing until their next 70.3 World ChampionshipsâŚwhich would make no sense. Thatâs again not how this works when you are a private competition soliciting the services of an anti-doping agency. Because guess what? Sheâs not racing is she? Canât even race the local pool sprint, as the suspension bans her from all competition.
With all due respect, I think you have lost the plot. But carry on.
the interesting thing is an ironman world champ is not a federation recogniced world champ, so does not get an urgent meeting lol