Call me old fashioned, but I’d 100% know if my partner was doing drugs. Especially if I were a regularly drug tested athlete.
I suppose a pseudo ~1 year suspension is about right for the situation though.
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One would hope and this is a startling lack of communication between them.
Isn’t the story that he didn’t know he was taking it? It was listed under some other name or something like that.
Oh I hadn’t heard that.
Yeah,-- apparently taking a supplement which was either contaminated -or- sold as containing it.
Not like he was on BALCO era regiments here.
By my count this is at least the third accepted sex contamination case involving female athletes for ligandrol alone.
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It’s just so… anticlimactic
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Contaminated… so contaminated that he was able to ingest enough contaminant to then pass it through semen in detectable amounts to his partner. Seems like that would be an extreme amount of “contamination” by the manufacturer or maybe more impressively by the boyfriend.
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I’m sorry, I’m going to accept the result of the investigation and shut up about it, but I am 100% not buying this explanation. Maybe I’m just too ignorant about ligandrol contamination and sexy time, but it just sounds so ridiculous.
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Lots of things can get transmitted during sexy time
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That’s generally how most sexual encounters end.
Too soon?
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Weren’t the detected amounts measured in picograms, which is 0.000000000001 grams.
Doesn’t take a lot.
Agree it doesn’t take a lot, but if it a contaminate product there should be trace amounts to begin with, then broken down by the boyfriends body, then passed to the athlete, then detected. I 100% believe it was transmitted that way, I also can buy she didn’t know he was a doper but I 100% reject he took a contaminated sample. He’s either a doper or a dope but he isn’t a victim.
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The product Simmonds’ then partner was taking, unbeknown to her, contained LGD-4033 Ligandrol, a selective androgen receptor modulator (SARM) which promotes muscle growth and enhances physical performance, listed on the WADA Prohibited List section S1.2 Other Anabolic Agents. It was not contaminated, and in the thread started on 26th February the dosage gym bunnies and others are recommended to take ‘for research purposes only’ is substantial.
From the ITA statement: “the athlete was able to establish that the presence of ligandrol in her sample was due to inadvertent contamination through intimate contact with her partner who was taking supplements containing the prohibited substance without her knowledge.”
Me too. I hope we hear why this has taken so long. Simmonds’ defence/explanation, including importantly evidence of the source of contamination, was clear from the early days (late February).
In another case resolved in July CAS effectively exonerated Ysaora Thibus, a French Olympic fencer who had an AAF for ostarine (also a SARM) in early 2024 and confirmed the FIE determination of no fault or negligence and no period of ineligibility.
CAS (dismissing a WADA appeal) agreed that the most likely explanation of the AAF was that the most probable cause for the ADRV was a contamination through kissing with her then partner who had been using a product containing ostarine without her knowledge.
Contamination, in its various forms, is an increasing issue as the testing has got so excellent and the reporting thresholds have not been set. The boss man said late last year:
WADA’s Director General Olivier Niggli made a strong public statement about the issues of contamination in sport:
“Today there is a contamination problem. This does not mean that there are more cases of this kind than in the past, the fact is that laboratories are more efficient in detecting even infinitesimal quantities of substances. The quantities are so small that you can get contaminated by doing harmless things. The truth is that we hear a lot of stories and I understand the public opinion that can end up thinking that we take everything. With thresholds we would not have seen all these cases. What we need to understand is whether we are ready to accept microdosing and where it is right to stop. A working table will be created precisely for this type of reflection.”
So TLDR, her boyfriend (thankfully ex, thanks for the info @OzzyTemp) is a doper and took the product intentionally and without her knowledge. She was contaminated by her association with a doper. She is able to compete moving forward but received a de facto punished with a near 1 year ban for her close association with an intentional doper.
The quote you used from Niggli is misleading as this wasn’t a contamination issue it was an association issue. The only thing contaminated was his semen through his intentional juicing.
Looking at some studies… this drug would have probably caused a loss of performance for her:
I’m assuming the cyclists know something the rats don’t
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Great news to wake up to today..Gotta love a happy ending.
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Ex Bf
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