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I feel like school, while very difficult, lends itself decently well to training. It’s like being an NCAA athlete. You structure your time because you have to but your class/study hours are less than if you had to be stationary 8 hours/day. You go to school from September-April and get prime triathlon months off. He goes to Ohio State so presumably has great access to their facilities. Idk if he has any sort of arrangement with them for treatment or anything like that but he at least has a college pool to train in and can hop on a nice track.

I agree that if the choice was only training versus training & studying then it might do him well but triathlon at his level has a window. Maybe he’ll take a pause between med school + residency but at least he won’t have to go back at age 40 and do classes.

@DCPinsonn said: “LCB is a great athlete but an injury prone one. Making her do a 140.6 so that she can race the World Champs just puts another race on her body. She brings value to any start line. & I’m sure there’s some sort of undisclosed deal where she’s getting paid to do this but I still think it’s a lot of racing with the T100 Tour.
Apologies for joining you ‘off topic’.
Prescient: Cassandra-like. But as I said upthread, it’s unreasonable/unbalanced to allow all AQ athletes to get a ‘free pass’ without any requirement to validate yet demand that all others race an IM hard to get a Q. So ‘making’ LCB validate was absolutely the correct thing to do.
As for “some sort of undisclosed deal” (appearance money paid to her to race IM Nice or IMWC) DeRue the CEO of IRONMAN answered this direct Q on the PTN podcast: “absolutely none”.
“A lot of racing”? Miami Singapore Nice London. (Compare that with Philipp’s results sheet - list below). LCB will drop to #10 in the PTO Rankings on 15 October and must get one more decent result (ideally two) in the T100 tour or she will not automatically be offered a T100 contract for 2025(!)
Philipp’s 2024:

Ironman World Championships - Nice
London T100
Challenge Roth
San Francisco T100
Ironman 70.3 Kraichgau
Ironman 70.3 Mallorca
Ironman 70.3 Valencia

Ryan has posted an article updating the Women’s state of play after Nice:

Busso and Taupo to go.

Who gets a guaranteed T100 contract next year? The top 10 ranked T100 athletes or the top ten PTO ranked athletes?

I believe that it’s the top 10 athletes via the T100 rankings that earn the “Gold contract” for 2025.

Pulled across from the auto thread created by @ironmandad’s article

In Busselton, if Barnaby finishes within 7 minutes of the winner he goes into the lead ahead of Lange, unless:
Hoegenhaug finishes within 4 minutes of the winner AND 4 minutes ahead of Barnaby, in which he goes to #1.
Both of them: they are seeded #1 and #2 - have the opportunity to close right up to Marquardt in the ‘three IMs plus one 70.3’ score.
Which would mean that it’s all to play for in New Zealand 18 days hence.
There is a wrinkle: while I think at least one of the three is likely to score >2500 points (ie within 8 minutes of the winner in Taupo) if none do then other scores come into play: the most likely beneficiary is Barnaby.
Notes:

  1. Fourteen men finished within 8 minutes of the winner in the 2023 70.3 world champs.
  2. Barnaby averages 3:42 for his 70.3s and in T100 London finished (only) 7 minutes behind Smith.
  3. Hoegenhaug’s only 70.3 in the last 4 years was 3:52 (Mallorca)
  4. Marquardt’s only ever 70.3 was Tremblant this year with an equivalent time of 3:46 (the swim was short by (for him) 9 minutes).

Here is ‘Triathlon Insights’ insights into why Busselton matters (starts in 36 hours):

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Pretty much exactly what you and I said right after Kona was done, the math was pretty simple to figure out. And Lange making his pronouncement right after his win there, it was pretty much set. My pick is still Matthew, think his focus on Taupo will net him enough points, and beat the other two contenders that are packing in a lot of late season racing here.

Do agree it is in those 2 interests to have this back up race, a lot of money on the line for the minor podium places, and of course the time gaps at Taupo will definitely be larger. But them racing and the series really only a 3 man race now, just makes Matthew’s path that much clearer, just has to hope he has his “normal” race there…

I don’t know that we know what a “normal” 70.3 would be for Matthew - but Barnaby only needs to beat him by 24 seconds and his middle distance races have been much more competitive. I would put Barnaby in the drivers seat here. We just don’t know as much about the Italian guy with the most British name ever lol

ETA…that said - Matthew is a huge wildcard here. And he could possibly bike well enough to stay near the front for that whole bike. We just won’t know. But Barnaby at least has a track record at the middle distance to look at in my books.

@ironmandad has shared:
“No, it is not a name that you typically associate with Italy. The son of a couple from the UK (mom from London, dad from Bristol), Gregory Barnaby was born in Verona, Italy,”

I’ve shared their 70.3 palmares comparatively, upthread. Barnaby has the best (better than either Hoegenhaug or Marquardt0.

I guess Barnaby could basically put himself into first this weekend, then play defense at Taupo. Just race to beat Matthew and Kristian. Unless he fancies being in the mix at worlds - if he’s in first though going in he could just send it and risk it too.

I’m expecting both (GB and KH) to go into the lead (ie ahead of Lange) on Sunday.
I’d like Hoegenhaug to win and beat Barnaby by 3 minutes to set up a head-to-head-to-head in Taupo .
According to Thorsten’s seedings, Birtwistle is a complicator.
https://www.trirating.com/70-3-western-australia-2024-dec-1st-seedings/
In Taupo I can’t see how Barnaby can ‘play defense’(sic). Marquardt will be in first pack in the swim and be ‘up the road’ and out of T2 ahead.
None of them are likely to make top 10 but all three look likely to finish within 10 minutes of the winner. Any further back (ie <2400 points) and Marquardt has problems and that’d put Barnaby in the box seat as he will have whatever he scores in Busselton to fall back on.
Thorsten again (for Taupo):
https://www.trirating.com/70-3-world-championship-2024-taupo-dec-14th-and-15th-seedings/

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As it stands now Barnaby will be in the drivers seat just seconds off the lead and about a minute ahead of his series rival Hoegenhaug. But I still feel likely this race may be a non factor once Taupo is done and dusted, but he gets to at least lead the series till then.

But you never know, some guy may have the race of his life and do a Knibb like win with lots of minutes in hand and this lower scored race does factor in. Only thing we will know for sure is that Lange is not going to win, likely wont even podium the series…

So if I’m Barnaby now I offer Riddle 3 or 4K to slow down a bit, still win the race, just not by so much… (-;

Barnaby is getting closer - he might just take care of it full stop!

ETA Dubrick has that last mile capability…this is pretty good!

Ya Riddle is coming back and could be a 2500pt sweep for Barnaby…

Because Taupo offers 3000 for the win, 2500 points there is 8:20 down.
Both Marquardt and Barnaby will struggle to finish that close (imho). So winning or close here is important: might we expect Riddle to fade in the second 10km?

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This is my theory too - both of them should be near the front of the swim and who knows who can keep up at the front of the bike…maybe both? But suspect losing a bunch of time to the front on the run for sure.

I can easily see Matthew coming off the bike right near the lead in Taupo, then he has to run within 8 minutes of the leader and just beat Barnaby for the overall win. Barnaby is getting his max points today and will have that to fall back on if they both fall outside that 8 minute window from the Taupo winner, so that will be nice. But he will also have this race in his legs which is not going to be optimal.

There’s not really a reason to think that MM will just be able to do that, though. Barnaby is a pretty good 70.3 athlete. I think it’s funny people think MM is in charge here - Barnaby has been in the area since Kona, obviously fit, and capable of swimming front pack and assumedly able to hold on to a group with race ranger. I would consider it a pretty good upset if Matthew beats Barnaby in 2 weeks time. Barnaby was very much in control today…