I went from the Mizuno Rider to the Saucony Endorphin Speed.
It was just an experiment to start with but I really like how the shoe rolls so I bought another pair. Another shoe that is taking some of my running load is the Asics Novablast. Like the Endorphin, it rolls very well and is easy to run in.
A while ago I asked what people thought of the Saucony Shift, nobody really seemed to love it so I figured I’d wait a generation or two and ask again.
I actually went from kinvara to shift for long slow and easy runs. I like them ! Hoka stack without hoka soft mush. Good cushioning without feeling your running through long grass.
Switched from Zoom Fly to Endorphin Speed. Before Zoom Fly I used the Saucony Triumph but somewhere along the way, that shoe got heavy and tight in the toe box (last iteration of ISO Fit and after). I have used the Endorphin Pro a bunch and tried the Shift. The Shift is fine, but I didn’t feel any energy return. Its comfortable enough and does not feel overbuilt. The Pro is firm, and I am not a fan of thin uppers. The tongue would cut me up going sockless. Switched to the Speed and it seems to work pretty well for everything.
I switched from Newton Gravity & Distance S to the Saucony Endorphin Speed finding my legs felt so much better when running on concrete. I didn’t finish the runs feeling beat up. I’ve used Newtons since 2008 and loved them, but as time marched with age, my quads really began to feel tired, so on the recommendation of Bobby McGee, I made the change in mid 2021 and am really enjoying running in them.
10 years of Saucony Kinvaras followed by 3 years of Adidas Boston 8 (the best version). Now back to Saucony with the Triumph 18 for higher mileage and Boston 8 for faster stuff. My wallet and my personal goals don’t align with supershoes
So I guess we will see them fall next year as so many of you came from the Pegasus turbo 2 and Nike just announced they are making a no 3
If the Turbo 3 came right after the 2, I’d probably have gotten it. But now that I’ve worn the Speed, I wouldn’t go back to he Turbo anymore because in the meantime I realized it’s a much better shoe.
I’m not surprised it gets so much critical acclaim. While the Nike Next% feels weird and fast, the Speed just feels like a regular comfortable shoe. Then when I pick up the pace I’m going faster than it feels because it feels like a normal shoe. At the same effort level it plays mind tricks on me. I’m thinking it’s 15-30 sec slower than Next% but the miles click by at nearly the same pace.
I have an EXTRA WIDE foot and run a 19 minute 5k so I have trouble finding shoes I really like. But over the last few years I have fallen into a reliable shoe rotation. I was always a Saucony guy as their Ride series came in wide and they just fit me really well. I love the 6,7 and 8 versions. 9 and 10 they changed the fit and I couldn’t shove my flipper into them anymore so I really had to expand my horizons. With the Ride ISO line the fit became useable again for me so I’ve been back in them for a while now. I do use a pretty large range of shoes now days though from when I lost the Ride as a shoe; I promised myself I wouldn’t be like other commenters here and stockpile the only shoe that fits and absolutely freak out when I need something new.
Saucony Ride Wide: Tuesday, Thursday hour runs with some up-tempo intervals ranging from 1-10 minutes.
Mizuno Waverider Wide: M,W,F easy ass treadmill runs off the bike. These shoes only see the treadmill.
Brooks Ghost Wide: Saturday long run
Brooks Launch Wide: Racing. The closest thing I can get to a minimalist shoe that fits.
New Balance Leadville Extra Wide: Fun in the dirt.
I would love to try the super shoes and racing flats and other minimalist style speed shoes but I just cant fit into them. It really makes me sad. We’re a childless family so I have money to burn on stupid shit like super shoes… but alas.
Worth noting I used the Nike Pegasus 35 Extra Wide and really liked it so I know at the absolute upper range of fit I can make it into those skinny Nike shoes.
I purchased a pair of Endorphin Pro’s about 3 weeks ago. I’ve just a handful of runs in them and alternate with my current Skechers razor 3’s and Skechers Go run 7’s. I put in around 30 to 40 km per week in addition to my other training. I also barefoot run on the beach couple times a week for 2 or 3km. I’m into maintenance phase right now and saw these on sale, so figured I’d see what the hype was about. Well, as I run mostly in a “flexible” shoe (or barefoot) these felt VERY different. I read through how these shoes are pretty rigid, but help in terms of “rebound”.
After one run in partcular, I had a small “strain” in the lateral muscles (I know there’s a good few there) of my foot, but was ok in a few hours after I released that area in addition to the rest of the foot muscles. Is this a faster shoe? Not sure as I’m currently not doing any structured speed/track work other than a few “pick-ups” peppered in my BF sessions. However, when I went to put a couple efforts in while wearing these, it seemed a bit quicker (placebo?)
I’m wondering if anyone out there is going back and forth from a low profile flexible soled shoe to something with a plate throughout the sole? Thanks ahead of time for your input and Happy 2022!!!
I’ve gone from preferring Saucony but using a mix (alternating Hurricanes with Asics Kayano for training with an occasional NB or something else) to only using Saucony.
i have some Endorphin Speeds for fast runs - and they are great. For me, the times for different sessions suggest they are worth a few seconds per mile (maybe 5 for me)…but i also like the bounce, weight transfer and impact on how i run. i feel like i am running younger.
i also have some Hurricanes and a Guides for most of my running and i think Saucony have made changes to the shape of the sole based on what they learnt while developing the Endorphin series. The weight transfer just feels better than with older versions. Not sure if it is the curvature of the sole, or the EVA or both, but definitely better.
Since we are already discussing Saucony, I’m going to piggy back on it. I made the switch from Adidas Boston’s to Adidas Adizero Pro. They caused me some Achilles problems so I decided to try the Speeds - love them (have three pair). Been working through my Achilles issues fairly successfully but then decided to go ahead and try out the Speed 2. Wore them for a walk around the neighborhood for Halloween and could barely walk the next day. Big time Achilles flair up. Continued running in the others and have my manageable pain. Wore the Speed 2’s again around the house last week and again, same thing - Could barely walk.
Anyone else tried the Speed 2 and have issues? I thought the change was only to the upper? I didn’t really notice a big change to the heel. I really want to continue with this shoe but can’t do it like this.
I used to do Hoka, but my husband and I switched to endorphin pro for racing. He’s doing the speed for training, and I switch between the Topo Zephyr and Altra Rivera (I had morton’s Neuroma, but the wider toe box on both of those really helps)
I also converted most of my run training to Sauconny’s Endorphin Speeds. I was using Brooks Ghost before (for the 12mm toe/heel drop and alleviate some issues).
They (the Speeds) just feels great to me, a combination of everything I need:
large toe box
lightweight (for a training shoe)
Good cushion/energy feedback
Still a decent amount of Toe/Heel drop
Perfect mix. For racing, I tried the Pro’s but I do not like them as much, and even suspect they gave me some issues. I’d rather stick with the Nike VaporFly Next%. While I feel the Pro’s are as fast, they feel harsher and for longer races I feel the Nike’s will do better on the back half of a 70.3 or IM run.
Note: I would also add that of my local Tri Training group here, many people turned from something else to the Sauconny Endorphin Speed’s for training too!
