what are you training in? We’re just concluding a survey on run shoes and the year over year winner, in terms of increase, is saucony. HOKA remains #1 at exactly where they were - 26% - and all the other brands pretty much held their own or dropped a tick. saucony, meanwhile, jumped from 12% to 17%. i suspect it’s the endorphin series, but you never know unless you ask.
I switched from Nike Pegasus Turbo to Saucony Endorphin Speed at the end of the summer. I really liked the Pegasus Turbo and wasn’t sure which shoe to replace it with, but I now prefer the Endorphin Speed.
Same boat here. Nike Peg Turbo 2 was my main training shoe until Nike discontinued it. So I started using the Endorphin Speed as my main training shoe based on recs from people here and on letsrun as a good Turbo replacement. However I am the opposite and greatly preferred the Turbo
That’s me. Went from Hoka to endorphin for off-season trial
Nike were too narrow
I still have a couple of pairs of the Hoka Rincon for easy miles.
I’ve switched to the Endorphin Speed when I want to do a little bit faster work. I’ll probably switch to the Speeds full time as long as I can find older generations at a discount. I find the Speeds comfortable even at longer distances…once the exclusive purview of the Hoka line.
I think Hoka could win back some of my business if they put a nylon plate (like the Speeds) in a lighter weight offering like the discontinued Nepali…don’t know why they got rid of that shoe.
Summer swapped from the Nike Pegasus/Structure line to the Saucony Endorphin Shift first, then we just picked up a pair of the original Endorphin Pros for $100 to serve as a training shoe. I kind of forget why she wanted to swap away from Nike to begin with but we went into a local running shoe store to try them on and they felt amazing to her. I’ll probably grab a pair of speeds for myself at some point as well based on all the reviews I’ve read on them.
Switched from Asics Nimbus to Saucony, I tried all in the Endorphin series and actually settled on the Ride for training and Endorphin Pro for racing.
what are you training in? We’re just concluding a survey on run shoes and the year over year winner, in terms of increase, is saucony. HOKA remains #1 at exactly where they were - 26% - and all the other brands pretty much held their own or dropped a tick. saucony, meanwhile, jumped from 12% to 17%. i suspect it’s the endorphin series, but you never know unless you ask.
Your suspicions are spot on.
Went from Nike to saucony endorphin speed. I also have the endorphin pro, but the speeds are a special shoe.
Brooks Adrenaline to Saucony Guide
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From what I see, Nike came out with the first proven plated shoes that worked, saucony was the quickest to make their carbon copy that works… being the bad history of Nike moral-wise, many athletes jumped on saucony to not feel morally wrong using Nike’s just to be competitive.
what are you training in? We’re just concluding a survey on run shoes and the year over year winner, in terms of increase, is saucony. HOKA remains #1 at exactly where they were - 26% - and all the other brands pretty much held their own or dropped a tick. saucony, meanwhile, jumped from 12% to 17%. i suspect it’s the endorphin series, but you never know unless you ask.
Anybody knows what is the durometer value of the PEBA foam of Saucony Endorphin Speed / Pro ?
Trying to evaluate if I could really use them, as they seems interesting, efficient and durable, but maybe a bit firm for me. It is difficult to evaluate from a short run in a shop or on a treadmill. So I want to put them in my “Frontfoot Softness Score” calculator based on the data from different foam layers… and need durometer value of their version of PEBA 
From what I see, Nike came out with the first proven plated shoes that worked, saucony was the quickest to make their carbon copy that works… being the bad history of Nike moral-wise, many athletes jumped on saucony to not feel morally wrong using Nike’s just to be competitive.
That may have something to do with it. Honestly, it came down to price and durability for me. Picked up the endorphin speed for $110 and the endorphin pro for $100. I’m expecting to get 400+ miles out of each. The “speedroll†feature of the endorphin lineup is noticeable as well.
The Endorphin line rocks. The Shift is comfortable and the Speed is perfect for tempo, quality work and when I want to feel poppy. I liked the Pro but like the NB RC Elite2 a lot more and my last two 70.3 runs in them were superb. The Clifton still makes the rotation and I’m waiting to break out the Mach 4. Golden Age of running shoes.
I’m currently in the Endorphin Pro.
Previously I ran in the Nike Zoom Fly 3. Early 2021 I tried the Saucony Endorphin Speed, and liked it. Wanted to try a carbon plate and PeBax super shoe, but I’m cheap and $200+ was really more than I was willing to spend. When the Endorphin Pro started going on sale, I tried it, liked it a lot, and have been using it ever since. On my second pair now, with a third in the closet for later.
I am thinking about whether or not I should get something else that is more flexible for some training runs, specifically wondering if you lose something only running in shoes with plates. I don’t tend to rotate shoes, though I used to have some flats for shorter/faster races.
was a long-time asics wearer, and then switched over to saucony as i was looking for less drop and a different ride. now i’m peregrine on the trails and kinvara on the road. when i was curious to try out a pair of ‘supershoes,’ going for the endorphin was a no-brainer. i knew it would fit and the price was right.
For sure it is the Endorphin line. Unlike most, I’m not a fan of the Shift, they give me numb toes, the Speed is fine but Pro is just great.
Prefer the fitst gen over the second due to the different upper. But have ariund 5 or 6 of the Pro’s, 2 Speed’s and 2 Shift’s.
Looking on the 3rd gen. Endorphin line the are going to take a piece of the Hoka pie as well.
Jeroen
I run 30 miles per week consistently and am in my 60s. I alternate the Mizuno Wave Horizon which are heavy durable shoes and in 2021 added the New Balance More which are lighter and are like strapping marshmallows to my feet. I like them both equally for different reasons. The Mizuno for the firmness and durability and NB for the cushioning. I run two consecutive days in the same shoe then switch. Both are easily obtainable at significantly less than full price, and I have a pair of each on the shelf ready to go for 2022.
Still in ASICS. Got a REALLY good deal a couple years ago. Almost through them all - might have to try something new…
Let’s see how you want this answered…lol
Nike Pegasus and Peg Trail 3 and infinity react
Saucony Endorphin Speed
New Balance Rebel v2 and Fuelcell TC and Propel
Asics Magic Speed
Adidas Adios Pro (mostly race)
Puma Deviate Nitro
I am agnostic to brands increasingly - just retired some skechers as well. But now I have 5 shoes with some sort of carbon in them…
I went from the Mizuno Rider to the Saucony Endorphin Speed.
It was just an experiment to start with but I really like how the shoe rolls so I bought another pair. Another shoe that is taking some of my running load is the Asics Novablast. Like the Endorphin, it rolls very well and is easy to run in.
A while ago I asked what people thought of the Saucony Shift, nobody really seemed to love it so I figured I’d wait a generation or two and ask again.