If they keep this up, I may need to start buying French products again

So far it is just talk, but is French champagne a part of my future?

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3442638,00.html

In his first major foreign policy speech, French president says diplomatic push by world’s powers to rein in Tehran’s nuclear program is only alternative to ‘Iranian bomb or bombing of Iran’

You’ll have to excuse the fact that I haven’t read the link, but the quote from the article says, basically, nothing. “Either we bomb Iran, or we use diplomacy, or we they get the bomb.”

No kidding.

Here is a better quote:

"Sarkozy said a nuclear-armed Iran would be unacceptable and that major powers should continue their policy of incrementally increasing sanctions against Tehran while being open to talks if Iran suspended nuclear activities.

“This initiative is the only one that can enable us to escape an alternative that I say is catastrophic: the Iranian bomb or the bombing of Iran,” he said, adding that it was the worst crisis currently facing the world."

The French and other Europeans are actually right in that problems like Saddam Hussein and Iran can be solved diplomatically and economically rather than militarily. The problem is that they never step up to do it, going for a quick buck from tyrants rather than living up to their international obligations. Had the French, Germans and Russians not supported Hussein, we would have never needed to invade.

Maybe Sarkozy is signalling the willingness to actually use that soft power like an adult.

Hey, a guy can dream. I really like French champagne.

So far it is just talk, but is French champagne a part of my future?

http://www.ynetnews.com/...40,L-3442638,00.html

In his first major foreign policy speech, French president says diplomatic push by world’s powers to rein in Tehran’s nuclear program is only alternative to ‘Iranian bomb or bombing of Iran’
So if you were Iran, would the French scare you?

Why do you hate the French? Because they didn’t believe Bush when he said that there were WMD in Iraq? And they had proof otherwise?

Yes, if France were to change personalities and grow a pair. The EU could bring those mullahs to their knees with their economic power in short order.

Like I said, a guy can dream.

Or could it be that they’re normally a bunch of weak, snivelling, pussies?

Art, Just thought I’d give you a second option to YaHey’s usual drivel…

Had the French, Germans and Russians not supported Hussein, we would have never needed to invade. \

I believe that during the Iran/Iraq war, we were a major funder of Hussein and his government. Had we not invaded his country, then he would be the one holding the Iranians in check right now, for it was him that they feared most. We bungled the whole thing sooo bad, that they hve absolutly no fear of us anymore, and they are playing us like a piano right now. Sad part is, that many know it, but we are is so deep, that we can do almost nothing to stop Iran now, and they are laughing at our predicament. They are waiting for their oppertunity to pounce. And if not, they can just wait in the wings funding what ever group that wants to kill us, until we go broke funding this mess, falling apart internally like the old SOviet Union, all the time developing their nuclear arsenal without any worries, who is going to stop them now, the boy scouts??? Bush’s policies have been a dream come true for Iran, I don’t think they would have changed a thing…

Had the French, Germans and Russians not supported Hussein, we would have never needed to invade.

the above, students, is a nice example of revisionist history.

http://www.intellexual.net/images/saddam-rumsfeld.jpg

Yes, the French are a bunch of weak pussies for not believing Bush when he said that there were WMD. I can’t beleive they are so weak to not have been intimidated by us into an UNWINABLE QUAGMIRE in Iraq. They were also real wussies for thinking that maybe the terrorists were ONLy in Afghanistan. They sure are smart for being so weak. In fact, the average Frenchman wussy probably has more brains than our own President of Hazzard.

“…they hve absolutly no fear of us anymore, and they are playing us like a piano right now. Sad part is, that many know it, but we are is so deep, that we can do almost nothing to stop Iran now, and they are laughing at our predicament.”


Somewhere in the Persian Gulf…at this very moment, there is an American nuclear submarine on patrol with enough ordnance on only this one boat…to wipe the entire country of Iran of the face of the earth.

You should to wise up, just a litttle bit. They are scared to death of the destructive power that we can project…not just from here in the US with B-52’s and B1’ s, but also in their front yard.

so our ‘enemies’ exist only because we allow them to exist -

I bet there’s a strong inverse correlation between the percentage of people in a nation who believe as you do - - and the remaining length of time that nation has to enjoy it’s superpower status.

I bet there’s a strong inverse correlation between the percentage of people in a nation who believe as you do - - and the remaining length of time that nation has to enjoy it’s superpower status. \\

I couldn’t have put it better, it should be moronmaster…Ya, Ya, let’s nooke all the towel heads, that will show them…

**so our ‘enemies’ exist only because we allow them to exist - **


Precisely. And this ‘allowing enemies to exist’ business has always been bad policy as history is littered with examples of enemies who should have been completely annihilated…being given the opportunity to regain strength and pose a much greater threat by way of the pussification of liberal ideology.

I bet there’s a strong inverse correlation between the percentage of people in a nation who believe as you do - - and the remaining length of time that nation has to enjoy it’s superpower status.

It’s a non-issue when complete annihilation of ones enemies is the only agenda: They’re dead, fuck 'em. No need for soul searching, or worrying about ‘implications’…we can move on to bigger and better things.

“I couldn’t have put it better, it should be moronmaster…Ya, Ya, let’s nooke all the towel heads, that will show them…”

Sarcasm and insults aside, you agree with me. There really is something we can do about Iran, right?

Yes, I can see how this unbelievable capability to destroy our enemies with one submarie has intimiated the Iraqi insurgents. Every time they kill one of our guys with a $3 IED they think to themselves - “shit, with one pinky of their American hands, they could destroy my entire country”.

You should think about the creeping incrementalism of weapons trafficking. That $3 IED came from somewhere…not as a complete device, but as ‘parts’ along with other weapons, ammo, explosives made for the sole pupose of killing American soldiers. Let’s say it came from Iran. If my policiies are followed and Iran can no longer produce these weapons, insurgents have nothing. It’s pretty basic: One Submarine…push a button = Problem Solved

you are a fucking asshole.

Why would you say something like that?

Napoleon, Von Clausewitz, Moses, Sun-Tzu, Mao Tse-tung, Kautilya……all of these legendary historical figures advocated precisely what I am talking about in this thread:

The complete annihilation of one enemy’s by whatever means necessary: Showing no mercy.

What’s the problem?

I’m just stating a fact.