Please explain to me bc I don’t get it.
EPO is a hormone that boosts red blood cell count. We all have it. What you can’t do is take additional or synthetic EPO like you can’t take other hormones. What you are probably seeing is an advert for what, I’m guessing, is a nutritional supplement that the makers say will boost natural EPO production. But, as I say, that’s a guess because I don’t have that magazine. Maybe let us know the product name and what it says the product is/contains.
I think that is an ad for EPOBOOST which is not EPO - its a supplement like the poster above alludes to.
the same reason we have Testosterone and IV infusion booths at USAT and Ironman race expos
Please explain to me bc I don’t get it.
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Media businesses typically rely on advertisers to generate revenue. In markets like North America where subscription models offer massively discounted pricing, this is even more true. Hence full page ads for supplements in athletic publications.
Always thought it was interesting that Amgen sponsors cycling with the tour of California.
Always thought it was interesting that Amgen sponsors cycling with the tour of California.
Amgen makes a hell of a lot more than just Epogen
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EPO is a hormone that boosts red blood cell count. We all have it. What you can’t do is take additional or synthetic EPO like you can’t take other hormones. What you are probably seeing is an advert for what, I’m guessing, is a nutritional supplement that the makers say will boost natural EPO production. But, as I say, that’s a guess because I don’t have that magazine. Maybe let us know the product name and what it says the product is/contains.
It’s interesting but what is the mechanism for natural EPO production? IE likely your typical supplement marketing scam.
My understanding is that if you have good iron and good health then the raw building blocks are already there and all you need is trauma to spike production.
Ie Altitude, a car accident (where you lose a lot of blood) or old fashioned blood doping, where you take a pint out.
There’s always been a gray area for this IMO. It’s not ok for Barry Bonds to dope, but it’s fine for him to have lasik surgery to get 20/10 vision, which is much more important. Can’t hit a home run if you can’t see the ball. Or voluntary Tommy John surgery for pitchers, who then throw 5+ mph faster that they did pre-surgery.
Then there’s people here who bring out the pitchforks because a cyclist/triathlete gets popped for drugs but when their favorite nfl cornerback gets popped they’re happy because when he comes back in week 5 he’ll be well rested.
nobody is arguing those things… you’re creating a strawman
There’s always been a gray area for this IMO. It’s not ok for Barry Bonds to dope, but it’s fine for him to have lasik surgery to get 20/10 vision, which is much more important. Can’t hit a home run if you can’t see the ball. Or voluntary Tommy John surgery for pitchers, who then throw 5+ mph faster that they did pre-surgery.
Then there’s people here who bring out the pitchforks because a cyclist/triathlete gets popped for drugs but when their favorite nfl cornerback gets popped they’re happy because when he comes back in week 5 he’ll be well rested.
Just saying that I feel it is a little shady to have an ad for an epo booster and it is a little shady to have the Amgen tour of California. But it’s always been shady so whatever.
There’s always been a gray area for this IMO. It’s not ok for Barry Bonds to dope, but it’s fine for him to have lasik surgery to get 20/10 vision, which is much more important. Can’t hit a home run if you can’t see the ball. Or voluntary Tommy John surgery for pitchers, who then throw 5+ mph faster that they did pre-surgery.
Then there’s people here who bring out the pitchforks because a cyclist/triathlete gets popped for drugs but when their favorite nfl cornerback gets popped they’re happy because when he comes back in week 5 he’ll be well rested.
No one is really talking about that, but interesting point.
Illiac surgery is cycling’s new Tommy John.
There’s always been a gray area for this IMO. It’s not ok for Barry Bonds to dope, but it’s fine for him to have lasik surgery to get 20/10 vision, which is much more important. Can’t hit a home run if you can’t see the ball. Or voluntary Tommy John surgery for pitchers, who then throw 5+ mph faster that they did pre-surgery.
While some of the kids are probably asking for the surgery because they’ve already burnt out their arms, others see it as a way of juicing their arms up. This is more myth than reality – about one in five patients never pitch again, and though successful Tommy Johns have allowed pitchers to regain their former strength, there’s no evidence that it makes them stronger than before.
https://www.wired.com/2007/08/teenage-pitcher/
Do you have evidence that it make them stronger than before?
nobody is arguing those things… you’re creating a strawman //
No kidding, some people have a hard time staying on track. What’s next, you get injured or break an ankle, and you are done forever, because fixing it doesnt leave you in your natural state??
“EPO Boost” is just a massive (over-priced) dose of Echinacea, from what I can see.
And their advertising sham snags another one…
And their advertising sham snags another one…
No, I just didn’t understand what the difference was. Never bought any and never will.
There’s always been a gray area for this IMO. It’s not ok for Barry Bonds to dope, but it’s fine for him to have lasik surgery to get 20/10 vision, which is much more important. Can’t hit a home run if you can’t see the ball. Or voluntary Tommy John surgery for pitchers, who then throw 5+ mph faster that they did pre-surgery.
Then there’s people here who bring out the pitchforks because a cyclist/triathlete gets popped for drugs but when their favorite nfl cornerback gets popped they’re happy because when he comes back in week 5 he’ll be well rested.
No one is really talking about that, but interesting point.
Illiac surgery is cycling’s new Tommy John.
I can guarantee you that no one is going through illiac surgery voluntarily without cause. Having had the surgery, it is not something you really want to go through and it does, sometimes, fix a legitimate problem.
Probably should have written that one in pink. 
And their advertising sham snags another one…
No, I just didn’t understand what the difference was. Never bought any and never will.
But they got someone to keep their product buzz going by tricking them into thinking it’s EPO