Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Announcers for CBC in Canada said headwind so times slower. I do think it’s “cleaner” in sense not taking horse steroids (or such high powered anabolic) but still dirty. My belief is Salazar program and USA sprint athletes are on micro doses of drugs that WADA doesn’t even know about or that are technically legal (such as thyroid mess for distance runners)
Ethiopia is rife with EPO. I mean Ayana coach busted and she lapped the fucking field. That is so blatantly BS
Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Possibly. Although Gatlin is running quicker now “clean” than when he was doping.
Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Possibly. Although Gatlin is running quicker now “clean” than when he was doping.
…at 35yrs old.
Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Possibly. Although Gatlin is running quicker now “clean” than when he was doping.
…at 35yrs old.
I’m glad he was booed.
Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Possibly. Although Gatlin is running quicker now “clean” than when he was doping.
…at 35yrs old.
I’m glad he was booed.
OK, all you guys piling on Gatlin, and rightfully so, but do you guys think the rest of the field were choirboys, and you only deserve to get boo’d after you are busted, but if you’d all turbo’d up and smart enough to not get caught, then its fine? If that is the case, I can see booing someone for just being stupid enough to get caught and cheering those guys smart enough to not get caught.
In all seriousness, of all athletes in track Gatlin probably pissed me off the most, but whatever. If Bolt was busted tomorrow, I would not be surprised nor disappointed. I am just assuming he’s using everything that he can that is either legal or not detectable. If he happens to be a bread and water guy, then then that would be a bonus just like it would be a bonus if Froome is on bread and water only. But I’ll just watch the show and not get too surprised either way and hope the testers are doing their jobs.
That stumble was scary I don’t know how he didn’t turn his ankle. It was a good race. What I think is cool is how varied track seems to have got these day. The Ugandan guy in second place. Not even on my radar. South Africa has all sorts of good runners. Things are slowly getting better in Africa I think.
Just a quick thought. With one of the slowest 100’s in recent memory at a championship or Olympics, any chance we actually saw one of the cleaner groups in the 100m finals?
Seoul 1988
9.79, 9.92, 9.99, 10.04, 10:11, 10:11, 12:26
London 2017
9.92, 9:94, 9:95, 9.99, 10;01, 10:08, 10:17, 10:27
Throwing out Ray Stewart’s 12:26 and Ben’s 9.79 we’re looking at not much different field today,
Possibly. Although Gatlin is running quicker now “clean” than when he was doping.
…at 35yrs old.
I’m glad he was booed.
OK, all you guys piling on Gatlin, and rightfully so, but do you guys think the rest of the field were choirboys, and you only deserve to get boo’d after you are busted, but if you’d all turbo’d up and smart enough to not get caught, then its fine? If that is the case, I can see booing someone for just being stupid enough to get caught and cheering those guys smart enough to not get caught.
In all seriousness, of all athletes in track Gatlin probably pissed me off the most, but whatever. If Bolt was busted tomorrow, I would not be surprised nor disappointed. I am just assuming he’s using everything that he can that is either legal or not detectable. If he happens to be a bread and water guy, then then that would be a bonus just like it would be a bonus if Froome is on bread and water only. But I’ll just watch the show and not get too surprised either way and hope the testers are doing their jobs.
Bolt has passed every drug test thrown at him in the last 10 years. It would be naive to state, categorically, he’s therefore clean, but he has to be given the benefit of the doubt irrespective of how dirty the world of sprinting is.
Bolt has passed every drug test thrown at him in the last 10 years.
So, people really haven’t learned anything from that whole Lance thing…
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Bolt has passed every drug test thrown at him in the last 10 years.
So, people really haven’t learned anything from that whole Lance thing…
Lance failed at least 6 tests, I believe, Bolt hasn’t failed one.
I’m glad he was booed.
The booing sent an unmistakable lesson to kids – your rep gets questioned forever if you dope, no coming back. That’s a good lesson.
still I’d have been happier if it was dead silence. Booing belongs at a WWF match, not a world championship.
I’m not naive enough to think the rest of the field are on bread and water. But I’m still prepared to give the benefit of the doubt until such time as there is evidence to show otherwise. In Gatlin’s case there’s 2 failed tests. Fans don’t want him in the sport, and the booing makes that clear to him. They’re also booing the USATF and IAAF for allowing him to be there. I hope somebody is listening.
Bolt has passed every drug test thrown at him in the last 10 years.
So, people really haven’t learned anything from that whole Lance thing…
Lance failed at least 6 tests, I believe, Bolt hasn’t failed one.
Wie don’t really know.
What happened today in womens 10,000 & mens 100 was T&F killing itself. What an absolute farce. And 24hrs after the medal ceremony for silver/bronze Goucher/Pavy respectively earned 10 years ago.
Nevermind last nights mens 10,000. Really? Undefeated for 6 years but won squat before moving to Salazar. While the race itself most exciting in a decade with crazy lap fluctuations its not believable.
I have to get myself to a place i have with cycling. Treat it like sport entertainment like my love for NFL, NHL because today was an utter joke.
I understand your point and it was ridiculous to some extent.
But I actually think the women 10000m showed that you could compete for medals clean. Yes, Ayana could be doped to the gills as well as second and third place. I do not
think they are clean.
However Ayana smoked the field in such a dominant manner, that a clean Ayana would still compete for medals. So a runner with her talent could be on pan y aqua and still be competitive. I wouldn’t have thought that to be possible.
About Gatlin. One strong point to ban hardcore dopers for their lifetime is the following:
Gatlin still benefits from his drug abuse, even when he is clean now. So it’s an unfair advantage.
What happened today in womens 10,000 & mens 100 was T&F killing itself. What an absolute farce. And 24hrs after the medal ceremony for silver/bronze Goucher/Pavy respectively earned 10 years ago.
Nevermind last nights mens 10,000. Really? Undefeated for 6 years but won squat before moving to Salazar. While the race itself most exciting in a decade with crazy lap fluctuations its not believable.
I have to get myself to a place i have with cycling. Treat it like sport entertainment like my love for NFL, NHL because today was an utter joke.
I understand your point and it was ridiculous to some extent.
But I actually think the women 10000m showed that you could compete for medals clean. Yes, Ayana could be doped to the gills as well as second and third place. I do not
think they are clean.
However Ayana smoked the field in such a dominant manner, that a clean Ayana would still compete for medals. So a runner with her talent could be on pan y aqua and still be competitive. I wouldn’t have thought that to be possible.
About Gatlin. One strong point to ban hardcore dopers for their lifetime is the following:
Gatlin still benefits from his drug abuse, even when he is clean now. So it’s an unfair advantage.
You are joking, she smoked the field because she doesn’t just dope a little bit, she is a chemical on legs, no one can know what she could do as a clean athlete as we don’t know what level all the little concoctions of legal but dodgy plus the full on illegal drugs can improve an athlete. It makes me sad watching these races.
Back to the racing the men’s marathon should be wrapped up. NO coverage yet in Canada. Can you guys point me to the results?
OK got them off Eurosport. Looks like a full on tactical race based on times:
1
Geoffrey Kirui2:08:27
2
Tamirat Tola2:09:49
3
Alphonce Simbu2:09:51
4
Callum Hawkins2:10:17
5Gideon Kipkemoi Kipketer2:10:56
6
Daniele Meucci2:10:56
7
Yohanes Ghebregergis2:12:07
8Daniel Wanjiru2:12:16
9
Yuki Kawauchi2:12:19
10Kentaro Nakamoto2:12:41
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Great run by Callum Hawkins for 4th, equalling the best ever marathon placing by a British male athlete.
What happened today in womens 10,000 & mens 100 was T&F killing itself. What an absolute farce. And 24hrs after the medal ceremony for silver/bronze Goucher/Pavy respectively earned 10 years ago.
Nevermind last nights mens 10,000. Really? Undefeated for 6 years but won squat before moving to Salazar. While the race itself most exciting in a decade with crazy lap fluctuations its not believable.
I have to get myself to a place i have with cycling. Treat it like sport entertainment like my love for NFL, NHL because today was an utter joke.
I understand your point and it was ridiculous to some extent.
But I actually think the women 10000m showed that you could compete for medals clean. Yes, Ayana could be doped to the gills as well as second and third place. I do not
think they are clean.
However Ayana smoked the field in such a dominant manner, that a clean Ayana would still compete for medals. So a runner with her talent could be on pan y aqua and still be competitive. I wouldn’t have thought that to be possible.
About Gatlin. One strong point to ban hardcore dopers for their lifetime is the following:
Gatlin still benefits from his drug abuse, even when he is clean now. So it’s an unfair advantage.
You are joking, she smoked the field because she doesn’t just dope a little bit, she is a chemical on legs, no one can know what she could do as a clean athlete as we don’t know what level all the little concoctions of legal but dodgy plus the full on illegal drugs can improve an athlete. It makes me sad watching these races.
People I have spoken to today found the whole Ayana thing bizarre. Why would you even do that? Its just blatant cheating - if you sprint the last 100m like Mo does it at least looks plausible. What she did was nothing short of signing a confession of doping. Absolutely ridiculous. Add in the whole coach arrest, articles on availability of drugs, and history of her training group and you wonder how athletes like that are allowed to turn up and run.
The Gatlin thing was a bit hard to watch. I felt humbled that Bolt went straight up to him and congratulated him - and it looked sincere when he did it as well. Gatlin should have been banned for life for his second offence. If I was Bolt (assuming he is clean) I would feel cheated. There is no doubt that Gatlin will be benefitting from drug taking in his past. Frankly I could not even watch that as a spectacle or for entertainment. It was just plain sickening.
I am afraid athletics is well and truly in the gutter. Without any real body who have motivation to catch and ban cheating athletes its not going to change. World athletics needs an independent body who can test, catch and ban athletes without the need of all the red tape. They need powers to turn up to training sessions and test the worlds best. Without it athletics is little more than entertainment, and the events of last night were not even that.