I Miss Bill

There is a statue of limitiations for blaming Clinton on all the nations problems, and I think that it ended sometime before Bush’s first term ended. So how about if the administration steps up like a man and takes responsibility for the state of this country? He’s had 5 years to get the job done.

But oh yeah, but I forgot…9/11…terrorism…Iraqi airplanes flying into WTC…WMD…Mission Accomplished!!

Just admit that you are a bleeding heart liberal

you say that like it’s a bad thing…

and will most probably blame him for everything you can think of

no, only things that I can see he is responsible for creating/exacerbating

Facts will have no bearing on your hatred

facts have everything to do with my opinion. If you can find some facts to change my opinion let me see them… name calling and ranting are pointless.

Ignoring the fact that Bush could and should have done more to prevent the terrorist attacks on 9/11 the presidents tax cuts were and still are the most signifigant cause of the deficit, real or projected.

http://www.cbpp.org/4-29-03bud.htm

Wow what a soft ball. OK so Bush was in office about 9 months when 9/11 took place and it was his fault they happend, Yet your man Bil had full years with multiple Al Queda attacks and he is not responsible?

With regard to the tax cuts- now that federal revenue is growing by leeps and bounds due to the taxs cuts which stimilated the recession lagged economy what is your response?

First of all: I never said it was Bush’s fault. I did say, and maintain, that he did not do as much as he could have or should have to prevent the attacks. Read O’Niell’s “Price of Loyalty” and the 9/11 commisson report. There were plenty of dots to connect and he blatently disregarded them. If Gore was sitting in the White house I would say the same thing.

Second of all: The economy was stimulated, but mainly by pumping money into the pockets of the wealthy (wages for the middle class have remained stagnent - unlike during Clinton’s administration) and at the cost of huge deficits.

I don’t think The Bride misses Bill. Elle Driver might, though.

I made a commitment to myself when this thing happened to give the President the benefit of the doubt as long as I could. I promised not to get on his case, to blame him, to be a good American and rally round the leader at this time of national need. I rallied and I waited and I waited and I waited.

I just can’t do it any longer. the man is an absolute zero…scratch that…he’s a minus quantity.

He leaves his ranch, makes a short detour en route to DC and flies over the area so he can look out the window of Air Force One like some sort of aerial rubber necker.

He gets back to DC and all he has to say is that this is going to take a long time to clean up and that he might visit next week.

I’m done, his benefit of the doubt just ran out. DO SOMETHING DUBYA, YOUR PEOPLE NEED YOU.

JESUS H, at least Bill would have been down there hugging a bunch of people and saying comforting things…that helps you know, ask Rudi Giuliani if it doesn’t. People need reassurance from their leaders at times like this, even if its nothing more than a hug. Clinton was great at that, Dubya doesn’t seem to care.

He has a war to sell.

Flame away.

Some commitment. You waited all of about two seconds before ridiculing him with, I’m paraphrasing here, “Maybe he’s too busy reading My Pet Goat.”

You’d be just as quick to jump on him for using this tragedy to shift attention from Iraq. So spare us the “Your people need you” garbage.

Here’s some more fuel for your fire:

**Eyewitness: Sec of State Condi Rice laughs it up at ‘Spamalot’ while Gulf Coast lays in tatters. Theater goers on New York’ City’s Great White Way were shocked to see the President’s former National Security Advisor at the Monty Python farce last night – as the rest of the cabinet responds to Hurricane Katrina… **

If only Bush had his way earlier…

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4200/is_20050606/ai_n14657367

In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding.

It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I’ve been here over 30 years and I’ve never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it’s not so much the reduction, it’s the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It’s the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.

Money is so tight the New Orleans district, which employs 1,300 people, instituted a hiring freeze last month on all positions. The freeze is the first of its kind in about 10 years, said Marcia Demma, chief of the Corps’ Programs Management Branch.

Stephen Jeselink, interim commander of the New Orleans Corps district, told employees in an internal e-mail dated May 25 that the district is experiencing financial challenges. Execution of our available funds must be dealt with through prudent districtwide management decisions. In addition to a hiring freeze, Jeselink canceled the annual Corps picnic held every June.

Congress is setting the Corps budget.

The House of Representatives wants to cut the New Orleans district budget 21 percent to $272.4 million in 2006, down from $343.5 million in 2005. The House figure is about $20 million lower than the president’s suggested $290.7 million budget.

It’s now up to the Senate. Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-New Orleans, is making no promises.

It’s going to be very tough, Landrieu said. The House was not able to add back this money … but hopefully we can rally in the Senate and get some of this money back.

Landrieu said the Bush administration is not making Corps of Engineers funding a priority.

I think it’s extremely shortsighted, Landrieu said. When the Corps of Engineers’ budget is cut, Louisiana bleeds. These projects are literally life-and-death projects to the people of south Louisiana and they are (of) vital economic interest to the entire nation.

The Corps’ budget could still be beefed up, as it is every year, through congressional additions. Last year, Congress added $20 million to the overall budget of the New Orleans district but a similar increase this year would still leave a $50 million shortfall.

One of the hardest-hit areas of the New Orleans district’s budget is the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, which was created after the May 1995 flood to improve drainage in Jefferson, Orleans and St. Tammany parishes. SELA’s budget is being drained from $36.5 million awarded in 2005 to $10.4 million suggested for 2006 by the House of Representatives and the president.

The project manager said there would be no contracts awarded with this $10.4 million, Demma said.

The construction portion of the Corps’ budget would suffer if Congress doesn’t add money. In 2005, the district received $94.3 million in federal dollars dedicated to construction. In 2006, the proposal is for $56 million.

It would be critical to this city if we had a $50 million construction budget compared with the past years, Demma said. It would be horrible for the city, it would be horrible for contractors and for flood protection if this were the final number compared to recent years and what the city needs.

Construction generally has been on the decline for several years and focus has been on other projects in the Corps.

The district has identified $35 million in projects to build and improve levees, floodwalls and pumping stations in St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson and St. Charles parishes. Those projects are included in a Corps line item called Lake Pontchartrain, where funding is scheduled to be cut from $5.7 million this year to $2.9 million in 2006. Naomi said it’s enough to pay salaries but little else.

We’ll do some design work. We’ll design the contracts and get them ready to go if we get the money. But we don’t have the money to put the work in the field, and that’s the problem, Naomi said.

The Appropriations Committee in Congress will ultimately decide how much the New Orleans district will receive, he said.

Obviously, the decisions are being made up there that are not beneficial to the state, in my opinion, Naomi said. Let’s put it this way: When (former Rep.) Bob Livingston (R-Metairie) was chairman of the Appropriations Committee, we didn’t have a monetary problem. Our problem was how do we spend all the money we were getting.

So, if they did get that money…the project certainy would not have been done by now, and maybe not even started…great, you found a way to put out last weeks fire…

No, just relaying the great forward looking vision of our leader.

With vision like that we all need to start building bomb and asteroid shelters, I will start today building a tornado shelter in my house. I am going to use 2" of plywood on my roof cause “green ice” may fall from a jet on its way to Ohare. I am going to get rid of all the hardwood and tile floors as they may be a slip hazzard.

There is no way, and no real reason that the Govt should or can plan for every instance of every disaster of every kind in every place…just not possible. Would we not be better spending that money for more eathquake protection in Cali? How about tornado protection in Nebraska? Snow and Ice storms in Buffalo?

If Gore was sitting in the White house

shudder.

Just admit that you are a bleeding heart liberal and will never ever like Bush

I’m no bleeding heart liberal and I’m not too fond of Bush. My card-carrying republican boyfriend isn’t a Bush fan. He’s a poor excuse for a statesman. I blame the democrats for not putting forth a better candidate. John Kerry, please.

I’m not happy about what is going on in Iraq, but I also don’t particularly agree with Cindy Sheehan. Thing is, there’s no draft. Everyone in our military signed on, in doing so they took the risk of being put in harms way. Reminds me of Superchicken “you knew it was a dangerous job when you took it, Fred”.

I’m sick of the republican agenda and their catering to the religious right. Separation of Church and State is not a suggestion. If people want prayer in school, they should send their kids to parochial school. That “under God” line in the Pledge, guess what, it wasn’t part of the original pledge, it should be removed. Gays should be allowed to marry. Marriage is not about procreation for everyone. Plenty of hetero couples choose to be together solely because they want to spend their lives together. At leasts the homos aren’t out there producing children they won’t/can’t take care of and over burdening the welfare system. I’m seriously concerned with where our country is headed with all 3 branches controlled by 1 party ( I wouldn’t want either party in complete control). Checks and balances are going out the window…kj

I am guessing that at this point the American people would find illicit bootie calls preferable to foreign and now domestic incompetence. You think Bush is down in the polls, wait til next week.

“I am guessing that at this point the American people would find illicit bootie calls preferable to foreign and now domestic incompetence. You think Bush is down in the polls, wait til next week.”

I think you replied to the wrong post. I was trying to be a smartass & didn’t want to waste half a work day getting caught up in an “it’s Bush’s fault” arguement. :slight_smile:

But that was yesterday. Now I’m annoyed…

No matter what happens, the libs find a way to blame it on Bush. Everything is Bush’s fault. I am so freakin tired of people who use every tragedy as a weapon to beat down Bush & conservatives. Where to start? It started with 9/11. Bush’s fault- the previous 40 years of American foreign policy were irrelevant. Afganistan’s dead civilians & Tora Bora: Bush’s ineptness, should’ve invaded Saudi Arabia instead. Geraldo could find UBL faster than the military/CIA. Gitmo. The “failed” Iraq invasion, the dead Iraqi civilians (killed by who, huh?), and the patriotic, “freedom fighter”, insurgents: all Bush’s fault for invading a peace-loving and benign country just to line the pockets of Bush, Cheney, and the Texas oilmen. Then there were the American contractors who were killed, burned, & hung from a bridge. Another terrible tragedy to be blamed on and exploited to the detriment of Bush. There’s the Humvees without enough steel plating, the defective body armor, and 1700+ dead soldiers. Then there are the bombings in Spain & Great Britain. My beef is with those opportunistic individuals who take advantage of every national/world tragedy to further their own personal agendas and political ideologies: Bush is evil, conservatives are bad, and a liberal must be elected (given the presidency) to rule the country. No matter the cost.

Gore didn’t get elected. Neither did Kerry. Sorry BC couldn’t serve two more terms. Most Americans don’t want the US to become a Socialist country. Get the F over it and get on with your life!!!

Why not be positive and attempt to make this a better country? For everyone, and not just for those who agree with your political/social philosophies?

Please explain to me how ANY part of the hurricane disaster can be blamed on the Bush administration? Give me a break. Any president would have handled things exactly the same way. Even if Ross Perot had been elected in 2004, the situation wouldn’t be different. Things are happening/have happened due to the structure of bureaucracy from the federal level to the local level. Bush didn’t create or implement it. He didn’t have anything to do with it.

Let’s blame Bush because 40,000 national guard troops weren’t deployed in Texas, Arkansas, Alabama, & Louisiana two weeks ago. Or because barges of supplies weren’t pre-positioned (on dry land, waiting to be floated by the flood waters) in and around New Orleans. Or, better yet, how about because Bush wouldn’t sign the Kyoto treaty & the hurricane was an effect of global warning???

(What was the name of the major hurricane that flattened much of south Florida a number of years ago? Who was the president then? Was that administration faulted for not having troops/supplies pre-positioned in Jacksonville? Doubt it.)

Freaking idiots. You all in the Michael Moore/Katie Couric crowd make me sick.

And if you read this closely, you’ll notice I’m not a Bush apologist.

"yeah… but he was getting gasp blow jobs in the oval office. The horror. "

Q1 Most of us enjoy a good BJ every now and then. Why should Bill be any different?

Q2 Monica looked quite pretty at the time; is she related to the Osmond’s?

Q3 But she really piled on the weight after the incident. Does Bill’s Creme Brulle really have that much concentrated calories?

Q4 Would that be a Gunniese world record for the most well paid BJ in history?

Just some related questions.

Mattin SF has an endless supply of fuel for this kind of political fire … cow dung is flamable and can burn long … thank you anyways.