How often (if at all) do you check out of training?

The last couple weeks have not been good training for me. In the last 10 or so days, I’ve only gotten in one 32 mile bike day, a little bit of stretching and a short 2 mile run.

Sometimes I get like this. Seems to happen 2-3 times a year when I just can’t motivate myself to get out there and train. I get that we all need some down time to recover, and I’m really, really bad at pacing my training. I do tend to go hard until I just blow up, and I think that’s where I am now.

But I always seem to do this right about the time I should be maxing out my training. I have two HIM coming up in the next four months. Haines City (FL) in about five weeks, and then Oceanside in March.

Living in southern Nevada, the time to relax and recover are the summer months. This is the perfect time of year to be training. Forecast for the next week looks like a repeat of the last week. Low 80s as far as the eye can see.

I’ll get back into it this weekend. What about you? Ever just “check out”?

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I checked out at the beginning of COVID-times and haven’t effectively managed to check back in yet, frankly. I go through fits and spurts where I’ll sign up for everything, do a lot of planning and a moderate amount of training, and then it just… stops.

I’m working on rebuilding habits; right now, that looks like personal training sessions at the gym and PT where I’m accountable to other people (to whom I have paid money!), and a 30-day plank challenge where I’m accountable to myself just to exercise the discipline muscle. Super low-stakes stuff to remind me that any kind of movement is better than none at all.

Is your solution to just move? Not train, per se, but go for a ride just because it’s fun? Hike somewhere beautiful instead of run? Give yourself a moment of chill before you get back to it? I know you’re fast, you know how to work. Do you remember how to play?!

I tell my athletes all the time you’ve gotta either schedule a down time or the down time will randomly happen.

Many try to grind all year long and there’s a small amount of people that can actually make that stick. You need time away to be normal and a time to miss the sport a bit. If not, you’ll likely burn out at the worst time.

For you, since you mention this is a consistent problem and comes right before the events, it sounds like you’re starting your build too early and/or bringing in the volume and/or intensity which is causing burn out. Then ya gotta grind yourself to get that final few weeks out which can be frustrating since your fitness falls off from the rest and you’re “retracing your steps” which is not fun. Especially right before an event. Even if numbers look good it messes with the emotional engagement of things.

If you were my athlete we’d look at your prior couple years and see if we can find a pattern in your burnout. Sounds like you don’t mind doing the work but then hit a wall. If ya find out where that wall is you can control the time off rather than having it happen to you.

With all that said, time off is normal. Burn out happens. Taking time off is ok. Triathletes have this idea they should just be 365/7 days a week and perfect which is delusional. Don’t be hard on yourself. Don’t try to start back where you were. Start back where you are. Still time to have a great race. 10 days off doesn’t ruin things unless you’re drinking, eating, and sleeping like a dirt bag.

I’d also look at your life schedule (work, family, etc) and make sure that plays into your 2026 race composition and timing. Sounds like you’d do better loading up mid season and then “floating” late season races if you’re fit and still excited.

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I have a similar saying - it is so true.

To the OP, I think we all go through it in varying ways. One question I would ask is does it tie into work/family stress? I have an athlete that was experiencing burn out in past seasons around the end of August and early September. Turns out it was tied to running around his son to school, sports, social events, etc. He never had any downtime himself so the time he would normally spend training he just wanted to truly unplug and relax.

For me as an athlete, when I was struggling to come back from a low point in training due to either injury, sickness, or just plain burn out. Switching to a 10 day microcycle helps relieve the stress of having to get a certain amount of sessions in a 7 day period (IE speed work, tempo, base, etc). Your volume will be lower potentially overall due to maybe doing 4 days on, 1 day off or something that fits your life. But at the end of the day, it will be higher if you are so burnt out you aren’t training much less (if at all). It is far easier for the train to back up to speed if it is moving at even the slowest speed versus being at a stand still. Momentum helps in training too, even if it just a 30’ EZ spin, etc.

I grew up playing 5 sports per year in high school days, and kind of kept that up all through adult life, but replaced team sports + track with swim, bike, run, XC ski, speed skating (less of that last several years due to back injuries).

But I just cycle through sports and the year and just lean in on one sport at a time while the other stuff goes to the background and I ONLY DO WORKOUTS THAT I WILL ENJOY. I won’t do a workout because it is on a plan, for some race. i’ll only do it because it is fun. I just did a 3:10 ride with almost 4000 ft of climbing today. It’s probably not the best plan because I am racing on Sunday, but i am a tourist in Spain and I can sit and taper in my AirBnb or I can go and explore the Spanish countryside. I reminded me of being on a solo bike packing trip in 1988, wiith my bike and camping gear, obviously no cell phone, no internet and just a michelin map biking 2000km around Spain with no one knowing where I was and me not being able to communicate with the world. So here I was 37 years later, kind of doing the same on my bike, but I had the internet (google) to tell me where to go. The point of this, was I was having fun. The weekend before I did 70.3 San Juan Puerto Rico in March I was back home in Canada doing a 42km XC ski adventure, and a 7km jog. The entire excapade took my 3.5 hrs and I really should have been bolted to the trainer to get sport specific, but I figure I would have more fun on an XC ski day…I probably was not recovered a week later racing, but I think the trade off is gaining general fitness having fun, versus burninng out trying to chase specific fitness goals, and actually ending up “less fit through chasing specific fitness”.

I’m of the philosophy that a high tide lifts all boats and while I may not eek out the best race performance, probably high general fitness, allows me to do a lot. At 60, I can race a 200 fly at the short end in swimming, XC ski a 50km ski race, and do a half Ironman all off a general fitness approach where I do a bit of many sports to my enjoyment level.

I think this is what most people forget. They are amateurs and make a living elswhere. Just go have fun in training and don’t take it so darn seriously . You cannot burn out having fun (assuming there is micro rest daily and weekly along the way).

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Very much this. I’ve got a job and two kids at home so life/work just end up forcing my breaks upon me. I did not intend for the last 3 weeks to look like this, but here we are. I’ve been sick, both kids have been sick, mom has been sick. Parent teacher conferences have meant the kids don’t have school (for 3 days! WTF!) so I’ve got to fill up the days with activities. A few days have just been slammed with work. It’s just how life goes. I did a trail race on Oct 11 and have gotten in all of 3 workouts since then including a trainer ride just now.

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Exactly! There are only a very very small few competing for a podium, everyone else is just a participation medal.

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It happens to pretty much everyone. Dave Scott would occasionally crash out and just sit on the couch and eat a box of PowerBars instead of doing his prescribed workouts. He’d mentally beat himself up about it each time.

Take a day or two off and don’t feel bad about it when you need to. Make the next days easy days and just make sure to get out the door. I have a 15minute rule: regardless of how crappy I feel slog through the first 15 minutes. 90% of the time I’ll start to feel better. If not my body is trying to tell me something and it’s ok to pull the plug. Realize that none of this is going to jeopardize your upcoming 70.3s.

This is pretty much exactly where I am. I feel like I need to constantly go, go, go! I never really have an off season. I do dial back during the summers because they are so oppressive, but all the good events are in the spring or fall, which means if I want to be ready for a fall event, I have to maintain through the summer anyway.

I admit, also, I’m not much of a planner. I mean, I may say something like “this week I’m going to do an easy run and a recovery ride” or maybe “I’m going to get one good long distance ride in and work on some strength training.” But I don’t have anything more structured than that.

I’m a BOP finisher and I’m OK with that so making cut off is really my biggest concern. I know I’m fit enough to do that pretty much any time I walk out the door. It’s only a matter of how much cushion I’m going to have doing it.

Like I said, this happens 2-3 times a year. I might take two whole weeks but I’ve never gone longer than that, and I won’t this time either.

Biggest thing right now is because the weather is so nice, I have things I am really trying to get done around the house. No family to worry about, so there’s that. But also, no help picking up the slack. If it needs to get done, I’m the one doing it. So I may not be training but it is exceedingly uncommon for me to just blow an entire day being totally nonproductive. And right now I have one big project around the house I’m trying to finish before Thanksgiving and it’s not looking good.

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Always enjoying your journey @VegasJen - I think it’s pretty normal to go through ups and downs, especially with other pressures like work.

I am older athlete like you, and can train around 340 days a year; as a kid I grew up playing the piano and I’m no athlete poor cordination but I have fairly good will power to start and finish things because I am a plodder and I did music which requires daily practise - this consistency though is a trait same as some people are tall or short, sporty or like me not sporty, higher/lower IQ/reasoning or more/less empathetic; we have our proclivities, someone like me saying “you just have to try harder or why are you lazy” is pointless as my mental strain to just train or race is less than others. Just as some people learn languages, have great hand eye coordination to box, or can drum 2 feet 2 hands independently effortless none of which are me. I train and race with people who have serious motivation issues that I simply don’t face; they have a lot more talent, so maybe they never needed to have the habits I do. Nothing to do with work load or life stress, it’s just our different natures. That obstinance and obnoxiousness in my approach to life took me to the top of my career path, and also probably has caused heart and health issues so this is not a boast, but it is a meaningful difference that I’ve learned to recognise between me and the less motivated. Some of them have come a bit more on my side of the approach, and it’s helped them with endurance sport, I’ve moved a little closer to them in other parts of my life which has made my life better too.

That said, training consistently is a major key to endurance sports, so learning a few ways to improve how you approach training to be more consistent can help. A lot starts with not thinking in terms of goals and motivation but rather what is the path of least resistance and process to just get s**t done.

  • you don’t rise to the goals you set, you sink to your habits you form: so reframing training as not as today motivated or not but rather I just do. Same as taking out the garbage, sleeping 7 hours a night, showering every day, eating healthy etc; then you aren’t relying on ‘feeling it’ you just roll out of bed, or arrive home and it’s just ok, we are doing this. A subtle but important difference, also a key why diets and many short term motivation based interventions fail so much; really hard to stay motivated for something when the payoff is huge but a one off and a long way away. I’m motivated to acheive the goal of climbing Mt Everest….vs. each day I will do XXm of climbing, each week I will go to rock climbing and do 4 hours of bouldering etc etc - the process will invariably lead us to the acheive the goal, but our focus in on process compliance. Not looking at pictures of the Hillary step and dreaming of standing no that majestic mountain alone.
  • be path of low effort; the more you have created as ‘work’ prior to training the less likely you are to complete; having no plan, having to set up your bike when you are already tired, having a flat tire right near the start of a long ride….we’ve all felt the straw that breaks the camels back when we say f**k it and call it a day. Try to make it as easy as possible to get to 20min, like someone above said (they said 15min, something like that). Everyday every session, you give yourself an out - 20min in and you really aren’t feeling it, that’s when you stop. Regroup for next day. But you always do the 20min and it is surprising once that consistency is formed how often after 20min you realise you can keep going…and that feeds into a consistency loop

- avoid the reward cycle too much: whether posting on strava and feeling good for the likes and kudos, or rewarding a successful completion with cake (and no cake on the other days) we try to minimise the motivation output for successful completion, again, it’s just what we do who we are to do these workouts again and again and again. The success reward is also the not do punishment 2 sides of the coin, I’m not a fan of this way, better to just slowly change it to be more stoiac; although I don’t put slotting workouts into the logical flow of a day in that category; for example weekends having the training all done by lunch time and having a nice leisurely lunch after, knowing you already have it out of the way, etc etc. that’s smart. The lunch isn’t a reward exactly as you would eat anyhow, but sure is nice and knowing you can have a nap chill out and whatever rather than getting to 7pm and knowing you still have a work out to knock out, well that’s just harder

  • accept the 30 40 30 rule of training: 30% will be really really good; 40% is just ok, 30% is garbage either fail, incomplete, and that’s fine. You need to be failing some of the time to push some of the time knowing that you are doing too much. Again, no shame in not hitting targets or duration; the only thing we want to avoid is not even starting and trying. So, not too much reward, not too much focus on success - its just what we do
  • have a plan: the idea of going around and not having any plan at all is creating a greater strain. Also you say big project around the house. So that day, you know you are already working hard on pulling out some massive tree stump, digging a hole or whatever; so that day your planned workout is you do all that stuff, have already laid out your swim gear, and once you are done, you go kick back. FYI we only have a few good decisions in us everyday, do not underestimate the mental strain of having to make extra decisions; if you end up stacking on decisions about social media, whether to post or not, should I swim now or later, if I swim what should I do….the body doesn’t know that these decisions are less magnitude than ‘a lion is chasing me and wants to eat my arm, should be run or climb that tree, because I could die"‘ instead it has that same physiological response to some degree….so we try not to wear ourselves out with the no plan adding a what should I do today decision or even should I swim or bike or run….prep plan and just do it easier

Within a day….plan. Within a week a set number of days. 4 week cycle as an older athlete, if you are hitting consistently decent vol then 3 weeks hard training 1 week recovery week when you can kick back a bit. Within a season 2 or 3 cycles of block base, block build, block peak, race, short rest then repeat. And within a year one full tune out a few weeks where you let your body and mind fully wind down in an off season, and that might be 1 week 2 weeks doing zero endurance no control on diet etc then another 2-3 weeks some training but no watch no structure just you go and run swim bike lift weights whatever for the sheer joy of doing. And then structured training - a proper mindful approach to master specific skills, processes and outcomes that feed into the races or whatever goals you have in mind. I’d be way more focused on process than goals.

  • get the small things right: nutrition before and during; enough sleep. Enough electrolytes. Comfy bike clothes and shoes. Amazing how many of the people I know who are least motivated least consistent. I show them how I sleep and eat vs them. Their habits utterly suck. I couldn’t workout either sleeping randomly 8 nights 1 night 3 hours the next, waking up lights on etc; good sleep and diet habits are key

  • have a support network; doing things where you are accountable can also help a bit; so for long runs and rides having someone you are accountable to so you feed into eachother’s habits as you run together can help some people (note I don’t do this other than our squad days, I find it mentally straining to rely myself to be exactly on time or trust other people to be on time etc, I prefer to just ride and run alone again it’s that make the mental strain as low as possible)

Motivation and goals to me is a minefield of personal suffering. Habits and consistency is a lot easier. Just my 2c. All the best you are an inspiration to many, myself included.

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I’m currently checked out! Did Kona in October and then Ironman Texas in April and haven’t been able to get back into the swing of things since then. I also forfeited my spot at Ironman Nice due to lack of training. Winter is setting in now here in the far north so that certainly won’t help! Really need to get out of this slump I’m in.

I am just a regular joe athlete and don’t have the same experience as others. I find that I fall into this a few times a year. to bring myself back I will do something small like a short run or very easy bike with no plan just a goal of ride for 30min or swim 1000m no set pace helps reset my mind.

After a few days recover the body generally feels good and an easy activity motivates me to check back in

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Different take on this. Would people check out if they were doing sprints and oly distance? Bit more manageble?

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I just had a newborn, so I haven’t figured out a way to train with her attached to me. I went from 7-12 hours of training per week to maybe managing two short bike rides to the grocery store.

What always brought me back from the brink of quitting in the past was friends and family sharing really positive messages about how sporty I am, or how fast I am. I should be doing this for myself, but their positivity gave me something to look forward to.

Now that I’m on week four of a newborn, I’ve lost any interest in mid or long distance. Triathlon was about the challenge for me and nothing will be more difficult than getting 1-4 hours of sleep per day (not per night) for weeks at a time. Hallucinating while trying to slap together a few sandwiches for your wife or trying not to pass out while trying to take a shit.

I used to get a rush from doing the undoable. As a new dad, I’m not sure anything will be able to bring me back to the sport. At any rate I’ll be following this thread closely for inspiration.

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Depends what their life looks like. If you’ve got kids and a job I can guarantee you that training breaks are going to come whether you like it or not.

This period of time is challenging for parents and much like doing hard sports things is a good idea I think doing hard life things is good for us as well. Learning to love your spouse at your and her worst moments is a great thing. The bonding time you get with your newborn and your wife are immeasurably valuable.

Pushing your newborn in the stroller then running around at the park and maybe even in a running stroller will bring you back to the athletic lifestyle.

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When D’Kid was born, many years ago, I took a bit of a break

Then one day - one night actually, I guess? - after doing her 4:30AM feeding (as I would do) and not really needing to be anywhere or do anything soon, I said to myself ‘hey! Let’s go for a run!’

It was nearly 6AM on a cold, dark, February morning, and it took me WAY longer than I expected it to to run my 5K (minimum) loop, without lights or reflective-gear or anything of the sort; totally non-prepared

But it was pretty cool, mostly for the “you did WHAT?!!! You’re fucking nuts!!!” which came later

You’ll figure it out

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This could be another “Big Quit” thread

They’re starting to pile up?

I got out tonight and did a 2 mile route in my neighborhood. Originally, it was just going to be a run to get back in the groove but I actually felt really good. Since I wasn’t planning, or even expect to have a fast run, I didn’t bother timing myself. But when I finished, I tracked my time from my MP3 playlist. Turns out, even though it was supposed to be an easy run, I was within a minute of my best time, and I felt good the whole way. Despite how bad I felt taking the time off, I think my body really needed the down time.

Now I just need to stop eating the sweets.

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Starting to pile up?? I haven’t seen any others. That being said people getting tired of IM training has been happening since Adam and Eve first run down the Queen K….

Peaks and troughs, IM training is a rediculous commitment. Stick to 70.3 until you have the time and desire to step back up. And remember, it’s just a participation medal! Enjoy being fit and the journey, forget about the finish time.

The single biggest issue I have found with Ironman types is that they make “Ironman” their whole identity

To fall away from that screws with their head allows for a self created guilt to take over when they stop training or slack off even just a little.

Sometimes that guilt can turn into a descent into depression as they start to imagine that people are now judging them for being “less” than they were.

I’ve seen it so many times over the decades and God forbid you were once fast because then the knives come out and people can take every opportunity to cut you down (been there,done that).

Peter Reid used to have a little thing he did when he just wasn’t feeling it.If by 20min into a workout he still didnt feel right he gave himself permission to go home.If he was having a tough time it was that 20min that kept him in the game,even if it was only 20min a day.

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