How Much Faster Could You Go in an Ironman if Doped Up?

curious if anyone (anonymously perhaps) has some sort of range.

also wondering whether it is more cost effective to dope instead of spend thousands of dollars on bikes, wheels, aerobars etc. (putting ethical issues aside).

depends upon what you are going to take and when. Yes your money would be better spent on PEDS then aero stuff.

If you were doped, how many more troll threads could you start?

perhaps i’m already doped and thus have already maxed out on troll threads, to the extent you consider my threads trollish.

Hell, I could actually finish then :slight_smile:
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Depends on who is taking it. For MOP and BOP folks, probably no difference at all (except maybe w/ steroids).

You could actually finish and not have to back up the next day like Ras and loos 30 min.

Are we assuming that the top pros in our sport are not taking drugs. Triathlon is probably one of the easiest sports to take drugs. Especially these guys who just turn up at hawaii once a year.

Depends on who is taking it. For MOP and BOP folks, probably no difference at all (except maybe w/ steroids).
Actually, I think it would make a pretty big difference: I have never doped but when I mainly did just cycling I used to barely be able to stick with the pack (in tri I am MOP overall and BOP of my age group). Then one summer I spent at altitude and did a lot of my training. For the first week back I was literally able to ride away from the pack and I was able to sustain the effort for the rest of those rides…fastest average I have ever had and that was solo without aerobars. That was just from having the effects of living at altitude for two months and within a week my body was used to being at sea level and I quickly returned to my standard position in the pack - at least it was nice to have a few rides where I felt invincible! I think that it is sometimes downplayed just how much these drugs can actually help you, I could only imagine what they would do if you were already a very athletically gifted person.

I think you are half-right. BOP are BOP because they don’t fucking train or don’t train right. Most MOP are in this catagory, too. They are undisciplined and uncommitted. For them it would make a small difference but they aren’t really trying, are they?

For MOP who are just MOP because they lack the talent, they suddenly would have talent and would get a significant boost and become FOP.

Re: your comment on steroids, there are really only steroids and EPO, and steroids actually do a LOT of things - including the one thing that EPO does (get your red cell count up). I suppose you could also count blood doping, but again, that has a similar effect as EPO and AAs.

“there are really only steroids and EPO”

unfortunately this is a niave perspective that many people have. You’d be surprised the types of goodies currently / becoming available

I’m sorry, I usually acknowledge the right of everyone to write what the hell they like. But please, this is the last question that we need to be considering at this moment.

Apologies, but this is the wrong question at the wrong time.

I’d say 1.21 gigawatts faster
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I’m sorry, I usually acknowledge the right of everyone to write what the hell they like. But please, this is the last question that we need to be considering at this moment.

Apologies, but this is the wrong question at the wrong time.

Well, at least you acknowledge this is a question that we need to considering, albeit the last one. Just so I can knock out the other questions as well, can you please tell mw what the the other questions are that you think we also should considering? Thanks.