How many of you buy a bike without riding it?

For example, the SC is roughly $1,600 less than the Cervelo’s. Surely there is some reason that Cervelo is charging more, and I doubt it is all in their brand name. It seems like the reasons would become more obvious if I had my hands on the bike.

It would be nice to examine the bikes to see how much wrenching I would be able to do myself. I bought LOML an SC and I changed the stem last weekend … I’m probably never going to do that again. I’ll take it to the LBS instead. BTW, she is ecstatic with her SC.

1st point - dont bet on it. They will charge whatever they can get for it. Brand name has a LOT to do with it. Some designs just cost more to engineer and manufacture so they build that into the price. Whether those specific pieces actually make any difference is a different conversation. The spec level of the components is the other major factor in overall pricing. Easier comparison is to just look at the prices of the framesets if you arent up to speed on the different component pricing.

2nd point - doubtful you will be able to tell from just looking at it. Read reviews and search the internet. There is plenty of info out there on all these bikes like their assembly guides. Integrated front ends will be much more difficult to wrench, ie SC, Px, Plasma, etc…

For my most recent ride I bought a PR6 frameset directly from QR, sight unseen never having touched one.

I’m a shade over 6’3”. Most shops don’t keep the larger sizes in heavy stock. Especially for the higher end stuff. No test rides for me either.

Same here (basically.) Test rode my first Trek 1.5 (I think) but never again after that. I’m currently up to 12 bikes of various types. The ones I didn’t test drive most recently were:

Canyon Ultimate
Felt IA 10
Giant Propel Advanced
Cannondale Scapel Si

I take in 3-5 options to my bike fitter in Houston (Brian at Bicycle Speed Shop), we do a retul fit with the move bike, he then tells me which bike(s) fit best and I make my decision from there. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for bike shops not to carry a bunch of stock, because once they take ownership of the bike they own it, its not like they can send the 10k bike back to Cervelo, so they are on the hook if you don’t want it.

Never test ridden a TT bike. There is absolutely no point since it needs to be set up to my fit coordinates, which a shop isnt going to spend the time to do. What do you expect to glean from test riding it? The tires you put on and pressure you inflate to will make the biggest difference in how the bike feels on the road. The rest is basically all position, adjust-ability, and features.

I was hoping someone would say exactly that, so I could just quote it. Thanks.

I test rode zero of the 6 tri bikes I’ve owned.

almost every bike I buy is frame only… so yeah I dont know how it rides :slight_smile: until I build it.

I will not buy a bike I have not at least had the chance to touch and feel a close relative of.
I bought an IA16 based on test riding an IA14.
I bought a Juliana Furtardo based on demo’ing one for a week.
My bike shop got in the correct size carbon road bike for me to demo because they were that sure I’d love it. I bought that, too.
I took the actual CX and fat bikes that live in my basement for test rides.

My husband bought a gravel bike online that should by all accounts have fit him perfectly, but yet it never has and he’s never been comfortable on it. We replaced it with a Trek that he test rode.

I would be extremely hesitant to buy another bike online. I thought really hard about it when I ordered my mountain bike because the spec on direct-to-consumer is unbeatable. At the end of the day, I decided I would rather pay the extra to have the peace of mind of having touched it and felt it.

I haven’t ridden a bike before purchasing in like 10 years. But I get a new tri bike every 2-3 years or so. So I purchase a similar stack and reach and it’s fine. But you are in a different situation having not purchased a bike in a while.

You’re in Houston? Go to Bike Lane in the Woodlands. They have the largest in store selection of tri bikes I’ve ever seen. For a Speed Concept, Bike Barns typically have these in stock.

You’re in Houston? Go to Bike Lane in the Woodlands. They have the largest in store selection of tri bikes I’ve ever seen. For a Speed Concept, Bike Barns typically have these in stock.

You are right, Bike Lane has the only P5 I can find. Unfortunately it is too small for me. I’ll drive up there as soon as I can to look at the bike.
Bike Barn does have an SC in stock so I can get my hands on one as well.

The only thing I can’t put my hands on is a P3X.

Did you check out bike barn’s shop in Rice Village? They definitely will have a few things in stock to check out (Speed concepts in stock).
Bicycle World ought to have a cervelo or two lying around one of their shops you could throw a leg over.

There is one important handling characteristic to consider, but you probably wouldn’t sense much in a test ride. It is the bike’s agility. Some bikes have a steeper head angle and a reputation as being more agile, while others have a shallower head angle and are more resistant to directional changes. Both can be preferable do different types of riders and conditions. The Cervelos are more in the agile class of bikes. I do not know what the Speed Concept’s handling reputation is.

I was about to post this exact comment. I have a Speed Concept and my wife has a recent P2. While our fits are obviously different, we’re the same height, and I can ride her bike comfortably for short stretches. Relatively speaking, the P2 is definitely the more agile of the two. The SC is harder to turn, but it’s also easier to keep it tracking in a straight line.

i test rode several road bikes before buying my Tarmac Pro, I agree that you need right size frame and fitting to get real true feeling but you can also still tell a little about how aggressive your position can be and how the bike climbs and handles. It helped me eliminate a few choices i was interested in.

Road bike: Yes, rented (paid) for a one day rental with option of rental fee to count towards purchase if I liked it. Only adjusted saddle to my inseam. Stem is stock, but close enough for me to get a feel.
Mountain bike: Yes, rented (paid) for weekend rental. Saddle adjust to my inseam. Brake, shift levers are easy enough to re-angle on a mtb, so did that. Stock handlebar.

TT bike: No, not aware of any bike shop that will setup a TT bike to a specific fit. If they don’t do that, there’s no point in trying it out.

I’ve been professionally fitted twice, albeit long time ago (2011). Since then I’ve bought every single bike without testing it. That includes mountain bikes, road bike, gravel bike, tri bike. The upside is typically cheaper. Downside is you may need to experiement with some stem lengths, etc. to dial in fit. If I buy Specialized, I can get dailed in quickly. My gravel is Orbea and my tri is Felt. Those took a bit, especially the tri bike. I had ST help me a lot with that.

I would not hesistate to buy without testing.

Add me to the list of people that have never test rode a bike. Hell, my last six brand new bikes weren’t even bought from a bike shop. Two Dimonds, a TriRig Omni, a Canyon, and two Trek Speed Concepts. They were all mailed to me. Never an issue.

How did you like the Omni? How did it compare to the Dimond?

Consider that the top athletes in the world typically have the least (no) choice. I don’t think anyone on the ProTour turned down a contract because they didn’t like the bike they would have to ride. The only thing close was Jordan’s beef with Diamond a few years back.

In general, high end bikes today are so well designed and built that test rides are not needed.

I don’t think I’ve test ridden ANY of my bikes prior to purchase.

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Ditto

I laugh at the typical response when someone asks what bike they should get

“whatever bike your bikefitter recommends”

I’ve always found that odd. What if it’s $5k out your price bracket, what if it’s butt fuck ugly, what if it’s reputation, build quality, resale is shit…

You may have seen my thread earlier on deciding which bike to buy. My next problem, almost nothing on the short list is available in stores.
I can get my hands on one Speed Concept with mechanical shifting. It is only 1 hour away.There is one Cervelo P5 that is too small for me, it is a 1.5 hour drive to see it.
That is it. I’ve checked every place within a 5 hour drive of Houston.

Are people buying bikes, sight unseen and trusting their internet research?

I assume that it is unreasonable to ask a bike shop to bring in a bike (P3X) just for me to test ride and look at?

I do not believe test riding a bike is of any value at all. In fact I think it is counterproductive.
What do you want to learn from a test ride? How comfortable it is? How it handles? How it sounds? How it fits?
All of these things are untestable unless the bike is set up perfectly for you and that is considerably harder than just getting hold of a bike. Comfort is more about the saddle and it’s exact position, tyres, tubes, tyre pressure and where you ride than it is about the bike frame or wheels (will you even be keeping the stock wheels?). If you go to test ride a bike, even if you put your own saddle on and have the opportunity to position it exactly as you’re accustomed, you’ll likely be riding on roads you don’t know. Will you put on your own wheels, or, replace the tyres and tubes on the provided wheels with whatever you’re accustomed to and set the pressures too? How about bar tape (more applicable to road bikes) - usually a much less critical item but still makes a difference. Then there’s the fit. Will the bike be set up exactly to your fit or will it be eyeballed close enough? The difference can be dramatic IMO. Will you swap stems, handlebars/basebars, extensions and pads, is the crank length what you will be using?
Then there’s the other big variable. How do you feel on the day? We all have good days and bad days. Will you know if you’re having a good/bad day or be able to normalise for this when you do a test ride? Doesn’t the weather and environment make a difference to how you enjoy every ride and how you will feel about the bike you’re riding at the time? On top of all the real mechanical variables that it’s extremely challenging to take out of the equation, there’s the fact that you’re making an incredibly subjective judgement which is far too easily thrown off by all these other factors. You might have a good ride or a bad ride. You might be comfortable or uncomfortable. You may feel fast or slow. But will you be able to reliably say why? I certainly couldn’t.

In short. I don’t think test rides tell you anything useful about the brand/model of bike you’re riding. They just tell you about the specific setup of the exact example of the bike you rode on that day. You’re judging the tyre pressure, and the saddle, and the cockpit position, etc… not whether the Canyon Speedmax, Cervelo P3X, or Trek SC is a good bike that suits you. A test ride may cause you to dismiss a perfectly good bike or select a bad value one, based entirely on factors that are not related to whether it is a Canyon Speedmax, Cervelo P3X, Trek SC, or whatever. Test rides confuse the selection process with bad info. I realise a huge number of people will disagree with this view, but I’m convinced it’s true.

I test rode bikes several years ago when replacing my road bike. After a couple of rides I realised the above was true and ditched the idea. I’ve since bought a road bike and a tri bike without having seen a single example of either in person. I have no regrets and will happily do the same again. The one advantage of seeing a bike in person is to judge the aesthetics. You may like to see the bike’s proportions and paint scheme in person. But I don’t think that’s a showstopper either.

I bought my Canyon Endurace off the Internet (clearly!). I was surprised that I was recommended a Medium on their fit system, and expressed concern at the fixed 100mm stem length. They assured me it would fit, and I could exchange the cockpit if I was unhappy.

Well, it fits like a dream! They were right.