The reason that i ask is with all of this super low aero stuff going on I am venturing a quess that most of the folks with tiny head tubes and really low setups are not down all that much. Ultimately negating any advantage created but the position.
I would imagine that most folks with the setup mentioned above won’t chime.
I’m at 14cm seat to aerobar drop - I don’t know if this is “super” aero, but my back is flat. I’ve ridden this setup for 6 hours without a problem. A little bit of a stiff neck, but nothing more. My road bike sure feels like a beach cruiser in comparison.
I have just over 200 miles on my first tri-bike, and I have found that I am increasing the time in the aerobars with each solo ride. I am guessing that for every every hour I ride 35-40 minutes is in the aerobars. I can’t wait to get that up to 45-55 minutes per hour.
This is a very good question. I rode pretty well last year and had no problem in the aerobars, but started to progressively go lower in front over the winter. By February I was all screwed up, though I didn’t know it. I saw a bike fitter and he said I looked horrible. When he showed me the video, I said the same thing. I had not put up a mirror next the bike trainer all winter and had no idea how bad I looked.
The bike fitter showed me that I had a huge curve in my back and a lot a extra hip movement that was wasting power. We moved the saddle back a little, from about 85 degrees to about 80, and the bars up and out. The difference was radical, but by the end of the first ride it made a huge difference. One month later I rode six hours with 80 percent of that (lots of mountains around here) on the aero bars.
I’ve got a tiny head tube with no risers on the stem and stay down during entire races. Why else would I have them? At IMF last year, I might have come off of them for a sum of 30 minutes just to shift position a little.
The reason that i ask is with all of this super low aero stuff going on I am venturing a quess that most of the folks with tiny head tubes and really low setups are not down all that much. Ultimately negating any advantage created but the position.
I would imagine that most folks with the setup mentioned above won’t chime.
I’ve got a pretty low setup(just ask SAC, desert dude or sergio) and rode 112 miles for 5:09 through some crappy winds yesterday, about 99.5% of which was in the aerobars. I’ve adopted my position after gradually changing my setup over the course of a few years, but I have known several guys who have bought new bikes and immediately tried to adopt super low, aero positions right away. They usually wind up sitting up a lot or raising the stem.
I would imagine that most folks with the setup mentioned above won’t chime.
I’ll chime. My pads are 21cm below the saddle. I ride down in the bars whenever it matters, and I sit up when it doesn’t. It matters when the wind is coming over the bow at ~12 mph or more; it doesn’t when the wind is not coming at me. I’ll stay in the bars if a moderate climb has a headwind. I’ll sit up for steeper climbs or if a tail wind is strong enough to net out the headwind down below about 12 mph. I’ll stand for 1/4 to 1/3 of most climbs.
It is important to vary the position during a long-course race. It helps us stay fresh and loose and ready to run. They don’t give out prizes for the guy that stayed in his bars the longest.
I have seen a lot of folks with what look like great set ups and they are on the hoods. Unfortunatly I think that you and the few others like you are the exception not the rule.
I feel like there is alot of fashion before function happening.