Honda CRV vs Nissan Rogue

Except toyota hybrid E-CVTs.

Those work completely differently than traditional CVTs. And Toyota E-CVTs are actually more reliable than even standard automatic transmissions.

Maybe this depends on the dealer. My neighbor just bought a new Jeep last week and got $2k off list. No crazy add-on markups.

Okay. But based on OP’s original post, anything hybrid will be out of budget. A cheap car like a Nissan with a CVT is just asking for trouble.

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Agreed, Nissans and their CVTs are both a disaster.

A continuously variable transmission (CVT) is a type of automatic transmission that uses a continuously variable gear ratio, rather than a fixed set of gears like traditional automatic transmissions. This allows the engine to operate at its most efficient RPM range, potentially improving fuel efficiency. CVTs also offer a smoother, more seamless driving experience compared to traditional automatic transmissions.

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Agreed, depends on the brand. And the dealer location. But jeep is another one of those low-demand brands.

And they are also massively over priced for what one typically gets. So a discount off msrp ain’t a huge bargain. But, as always, YMMV.

Wranglers are in high demand, especially so today as they’ve also become a fashion symbol/item. Other jeep models, less so.

A Wrangler is a fun car to have - as a second or other vehicle. As a daily driver it’s not as comfy, practical, fun to drive, as other alternatives.

I agree with this. I just bought a 2022 CX-5 and love it. It was about $3,500 less than comparable CR-V’s and RAV 4’s in my area. Much more fun to drive as well.

Do those Subarus have the integrated cross bars for the roof rack? Where the cross bars unfold from the side rails?

That is very cool (especially for active types like on this site). Wonder why more manufacturers don’t do that.

AFAIK, they both use conventional crossbars. I’m pretty sure about the Crosstrek, but I haven’t looked at a Forester recently.

Here is a good video of a CVT. This is a CVT for powersports. The automotive CVTs use a ā€œsteel beltā€ that looks like a centipede and hydraulics to actuate the sheeves in lieu of clutch weights. Operates on the same principles though. The hydraulics are prone to failure in automotive CVTs.

Team Industries is the exclusive supply for rubber belt CVTs for Polaris and the primary vendor for BRP (skidoo/can am).

and because I love this guys videos, here is the tear down of a failed CVT our of a CRV.

DO NOT BUY A CAR WITH A CVT!!! unless you plan on dumping it after 30,000 or 40,000 miles.

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But do buy a car with an e-CVT.
No belts if any kind, and bulletproof.

It will outlast any regular transmission.

Never looked at eCVTs before, they look really neat. Basically using the engine as a generator to power the electric drive with the ability to pass through output power.

I’ve ridden in maybe 2 rouges, and one we left on the side of the interstate in cleveland when it threw a con rod (13,000 miles on the odo). Called enterprise and told them where we left it, went to our meeting and got a ride back to enterprise to get a new car that wasn’t a nissan.

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I would suggest that you buy an Audi Q5 that is about three to five years old from a private party and pay cash.

Don’t forget to commit tax fraud while you’re at it.

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Have you looked at the new Toyota Crown Signia? I want to downsize from my Highlander when I pass it on to mini but wasn’t loving the rav-4/ crv types. I only sat in it but really liked it. I don’t think my husband will fit though (6’5ā€)

Nissan Rogue owner. I’ve hated the car (2018) almost from the start. Bought it because I was told it got the best gas mileage of its’ class. Nope, typically gets about 23mpg. Car was never that fun, I probably should take it in but the transmission problems described above sound like mine. I also had to go in because the car would randomly think it saw a road hazard and it would quickly apply brakes, that’s fun when driving down a highway.

Good reminder why I am currently in the market for a new one. Hopefully before tariff spike but having a bit of sticker shock at all the prices these days.

My wife was driving west on I70 heading to Eishenhower Tunnel and the car thought the transmission was malfunctioning (maybe it was) so it put itself in safety mode (or whatever it’s called). It would not go above 20 MPH and she could not get it to reset. After a harrowing drive, she made it to Vail. Parked the car and did her weekend. When she returned to the car a few days later to drive down the hill, it was fine. We had it checked out and all was fine and the mechanic said this is just something that happens with a Nissan CVT. We traded it in on an Acura a few weeks later (she’s now on her second Acura in a row; never had a single problem with either one of them).

Thank you for the information. Luckily, my Frontier doesn’t have this.

I have a Honda CR-V Sport Hybrid and like it a lot. I mostly drive highway miles so generally see the 34 mpg and not the 40 using the hybrid more. I have had several of the base levels over the years and always liked them, as well.

I’ve had several Nissan rental cars over the years and have never been happy with them. Also, the mileage on the Rogue is pretty crappy.