TT, they likely aren’t even in the same league. I coached at a smallish school that wasn’t particularly great at basketball. We had 8 games on our schedule that were in our conference, and probably another 8 out of conference games. Typically what happens with these small Christian schools is that they practically have to beg other school to put them on their schedule. Schools like us would accept them because it gave us the chance to get a few wins in a bad year, and gives our bench and chance to play when the team is doing well.
The year I coached I was the most proud of our team in two games they lost. We went point for point against two teams until the middle of the 4th 1/4, one was the top ranked team in neighboring Delaware, and the other ended up winning our league (out of ~20 teams) that season. The guys hustled, played smart, and showed that no one was going to push them around.
That is what should build your confidence and feed your ego. Not running up the score against a school with 20 students in it.
Like you said, you call off the press and put in your bench. If you still win by 100, you still did everything you could to make the game competetive.
There wasn’t a comment from the winning coach but here is some food for thought…
Perhaps, as DawnT mentioned, the winning team was practicing their full press. Maybe they had a tough opponent or tourny next.
Perhaps final season standings or tie breaks are determined by total score or scoring differential. The winning coach would be remiss if he didn’t do all he/she can for their team.
For those who think the scoring/margin was too much, what is the “respectable” cutoff? 30, 20, 10, 2 points?
It seems that more and more we are losing our sense of honor. Even in war, men have recognized rules of engagement. While it might serve your cause, and possibly ultimately save your life, to shoot at opposing forces while they are retrieving their dead and wounded from the battlefield, you just don’t do it.
Winning with your honor intact has value. Failing to see that beating your opponent 100 to 0 is not winning with honor is beyond me.
You completely missed my point. I’m suggesting that the team that is winning should practice something that is difficult for them, not something that is going to score them lots of points for the sake of scoring points. There is absolutely no excuse for that winning team to be pressing and it’s nothing but a slap in the face of the other team.
If the winning coach can’t get his team a good standing without winning 100 - 0 then he’s not a very good coach at all. I don’t care how the standings are calculated. What he did was just plain wrong.
IMO, a respectable cutoff is around 15 to 20. Any more than that and the winning team should work on an offense that will help them learn a new skill, but won’t run up the score. Perhaps, they should try isolating one of their weaker players to score. Perhaps they should try a new offense that they’ve never seen before to see how they handle change under pressure. Have their back-up players in, especially their point guard. The should have done anything other than full court press and their regular offense - that does nothing but embarrass the other team.
This team had many options other than what they did. The coach should be embarrassed for what he or she did.
I used 30 because if the other team does go on a little run and gets it to 12, then you’re back to pressing again. I have no problem with putting the game out of reach ASAP, and once it is to a margin that will not bring it back to needing to play the starters, etc., then call off the dogs.
15 points is nowhere near enough. A couple of misses by the better team, and a couple of 3s from the team that is behind, and it’s single digits again. Final scores tend to work themselves to smaller margins than what was going on during the game.
And again, other than a press, it’s not fair to the bench players who bust their butt in practice as well to tell them to not try to score during what may be their only game time. They don’t get to relax during practice because they aren’t getting as many mniutes as the starters, so why should they have to run a 4 corners because the starters are so much better than the other team? Their is some onus on the other team to play defense, and if they can’t stop the bench players, well…at some point it’s on them. If the coach has their worst players in the game, and is not pressing, then there’s not to much to knock unless you’re a person who dislikes the fact that sometimes some people are just that much better than others at something.
The issue in this case is really the coach. 15 and 16 year-old girls are going to go out and press and shoot 3’s until the coach calls them off. Running up the score against a defenseless opponent is like taking candy from a baby. At some point, the girls are not “working on their press” because running their offense against a helpless opponent doesn’t teach or reinforce anything. You don’t get any kind of credit for winning by a big margin as opposed to only winning by a couple of points in H.S. basketball, so the coach has to open his or her eyes and see that at that level, they are responsible not only for the athletic development of their team, but their personal development and growth as well, and also (to some extent) for the other team.
You completely missed my point. I’m suggesting that the team that is winning should practice something that is difficult for them,
We don’t have all of the facts so how do we know that the bench warmers weren’t on the floor perfecting their press in a real-game situation? Maybe that is their weak spot when playing other teams.
If the winning coach can’t get his team a good standing without winning 100 - 0 then he’s not a very good coach at all.
It’s league play. Other teams are playing for first place as well. What if the coach let up and the team that beat Dallas Academy 90-10 wins a tie breaker? Sometimes one needs to look beyond the current contest and at the bigger picture.
IMO, a respectable cutoff is around 15 to 20. Any more than that and the winning team should work on an offense that will help them learn a new skill, but won’t run up the score.
Again, maybe that was where they need improvement. If they are crappy free throw shooters should they purposely miss to keep the score down to some arbitrary number?
I really don’t see what’s the big deal. I played on a soccer team that lost every game, usually by 10 or more goals. Either get better or get used to it. I can tell you that losing at the buzzer or on a last second goal feels a lot worse.
I really don’t see what’s the big deal. I played on a soccer team that lost every game, usually by 10 or more goals. Either get better or get used to it
In an article in the Dallas Morning News Thursday, the Dallas Academy’s Athletic Director, Jeremy Civello, said The Covenant team kept its first-string players in the game almost until the end, and didn’t let up until the 100th point in the fourth quarter.
In a statement on its Web page, the board chair and head of The Covenant School said they formally apologized to the other school Thursday morning.
“It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened,” the statement said. “We humbly apologize.”
The Covenant School also said, “A victory without honor is a great loss.”
I haven’t read all of the post on this subject, but to set the record straight. This article is incorrect. The team did not press the second half and the subs were played the majority of the game.
I don’t have an opinion on this issue, just telling some facts.
I really don’t see what’s the big deal. I played on a soccer team that lost every game, usually by 10 or more goals. Either get better or get used to it
Would you tell a retarded kid that?
I would tell him to try his hardest. And, that despite that, things may not always go well.
"I don’t have an opinion on this issue, just telling some facts. "
Just curious where you get your facts. I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that every report says something different, including the paper and ESPN, who ran the story this morning. Are you connected to the team in question?
I suppose you would tell your winning team to beat the disabled kid’s team by as wide a margin as possible?
Would you have coached that team to a 100 to 0 finish under those circumstances?
I would not have. This was a conference game. The winning coach knew full well what to expect in that game. He has no honor, nor even the slightest notion of sportsmanship.
