So spring is here, the roads are clear, winter road kill thawing. But alas, Satan has his plan. Satan has pushed his hot hand of filth into the minds of novice wanna be triathletes and convinced them to spend their dollars and time trying to be as aero as they can get and light as they can get - on every 20k training ride. Satan has sent his invention the “behind the seat bottle carrier” to us mortals in an effort to get us to take eachother out on the sides of roads, not only in races but in training rides as well.
Even though there is no reason under gods sun to use a freaking watter bottle launcher on a training ride…people insist on using them “to be aero” as the sit along and chat with their lost since fall buddies. Spring pot holes launch bottles across the road like rampant mating chipmunks. These spirialing satanic bottles of doom and global destruction can how ever easily be stopped.
IF YOU ARE ON A (EDIT) ***GROUP ***TRAINING RIDE THERE IS NO REASON TO USE A BEHIND THE SEAT CARRIER. YOU HAVE TWO CAGES, PUT THEM ON YOUR FRAME.
I like watching the riders with two full bottles back there that have forgotten about them as they haven’t used them catch their leg on them as they dismount after the ride. Good times.
Just got a P2. One cage on the frame, tough to put a bag behind the saddle, so I am looking for suggestions here. I hate the behind the seat things, but on a really long training ride, I’ll need two bottles, plus spares, C02, tire levers, basic tools, etc. If the bike had two water bottle cages, I’d put all my spare stuff in one bottle in one cage, use the other cage for a water bottle and put another bottle between my aerobars, but that’s not an option. So what should I do?
I guess I could do one bottle on the frame, another between the bars and then some sort of behind the saddle bag for my spare stuff, just not sure what bag will work well on the aero seatpost.
Put your other bottle in your back pocket. Or, put a zip lock of your drink powder in your pocket and fill it at a gas station or McDonalds. A five minute stop wont kill anyones training day.
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I guess I could put my spare stuff in my back pocket and then put a bottle on the frame and another behind the bars. Bottle in the back pocket isn’t particularly comfortably, plus, I am not a huge fan of body heated sports drink.
Ideally, I’d find a good bag that would sit well on the bike, has anyone found a good saddle bag for use on the P2?
I agree, the behind the seat things are a pain, plus they just look ugly, and looking good is half the battle.
I’ve seen bottles launched. I’ve seen crashes as a result. I’ve seen riders overlap the wheel in front of them and go down. I’ve seen riders over-cook turns and crash into barriers and into the woods. And I’ve seen riders flat and stand on the side of the road while waiting for help. And I’ve seen all of this in the Tour de France.
Shit happens, deal with it. I don’t launch bottles but if my bottle causes you to crash, it’s your fault. You know how I know? Because you crashed, not me. This isn’t tiddlywinks.
ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF CUTTING OFF THE ARM JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CUT.
Training rides means that you need to carry more bottles.
If your setup tends to launch bottles, just secure them with either a rubber band or something else.
We are talking about training rides. So that means your pockets are already full. Training rides, hmmm, 80 to 100 miles rides being self supported means food in those pockets, maybe a jacket and arm warmers, a cell phone, powdered Gatorade, etc. etc. etc.
If a rider on a training ride launches a bottle, I am certain “I” wont crash…but, it is idiotic to mount bottles where they may launch when you are on a group training ride. If some one launched a bottle and Tracy crashed on it (this almost happend this past Sunday), I would beat the fuck out of the rider - hands down, no question. If you have a cage that you KNOW will launch a bottle on a training ride and possibly take out your buddies…why would you still use it - on a training ride at that?
My bike has one cage mount. For a long ride I prefer not to keep a extra bottle in my jersey, but I do it. I also don’t like to stop - but I do sometimes. A behind the seat mount helps carry enough fluid for that 5+ hour ride. I prefer to not stop on a ride - specificity is key when training.
So spring is here, the roads are clear, winter road kill thawing. But alas, Satan has his plan. Satan has pushed his hot hand of filth into the minds of novice wanna be triathletes and convinced them to spend their dollars and time trying to be as aero as they can get and light as they can get - on every 20k training ride. Satan has sent his invention the “behind the seat bottle carrier” to us mortals in an effort to get us to take eachother out on the sides of roads, not only in races but in training rides as well.
Even though there is no reason under gods sun to use a freaking watter bottle launcher on a training ride…people insist on using them “to be aero” as the sit along and chat with their lost since fall buddies. Spring pot holes launch bottles across the road like rampant mating chipmunks. These spirialing satanic bottles of doom and global destruction can how ever easily be stopped.
When you have a 43 cm road frame or a very small custom tri frame, a behind the seat carrier is used. No room for two cages. Never lost a bottle from a rear cage and I can also hold a straigh line while getting a bottle from the rear.
I think it is more important for those to look in the mirror before leaving the house and make sure short aren’t see through. If you want to show the crack indoors on the trainer, it is fine with me. Just don’t want to see out on the road.
I have a P2SL, and a saddle bag that connects with two velcro straps that attach to the saddle rails and one that goes around the seatpost. Just sort of hang the bag down the back of the seatpost, and the velcro should be long enough to go around even the aero post on the P2.
My long rides see one bottle in the one cage, and one in my rear pocket; both are Polar insulated bottles. I stop if more than 40 miles and refill. I also put my cell phone in a bag in another pocket.
So spring is here, the roads are clear, winter road kill thawing. But alas, Satan has his plan. Satan has pushed his hot hand of filth into the minds of novice wanna be triathletes and convinced them to spend their dollars and time trying to be as aero as they can get and light as they can get - on every 20k training ride. Satan has sent his invention the “behind the seat bottle carrier” to us mortals in an effort to get us to take eachother out on the sides of roads, not only in races but in training rides as well.
Even though there is no reason under gods sun to use a freaking watter bottle launcher on a training ride…people insist on using them “to be aero” as the sit along and chat with their lost since fall buddies. Spring pot holes launch bottles across the road like rampant mating chipmunks. These spirialing satanic bottles of doom and global destruction can how ever easily be stopped.
I wouldn’t use it, not to protect Tracy or my friends but to protect the bottle and the nutrition/hydration in it that I need. I’ve got good news and bad news–if Tracy can’t avoid crashing when someone launches a bottle then it’s Tracy’s fault. The good news is, you know this.
For me it’s black and white—if you crash, it’s your fault. Bottles, cars, wet roads, squirrels, flats, pebbles, speed bumps…if you crash, it’s your fault.
I have a training partner that insists on wearing his Bell Meteor on EVERY training ride. Then he wears a floppy vest and always has a completely unused water bottle.
but I wear compression socks for training runs - so who’s worse?
I appreciate your sentiments…The issue isn’t that people are choosing to train with the contraptions they’ll race with (that’s good)…the issue is that they have equipment that plain doesn’t work! Don’t use bottle launchers at all! But that said…it does make for a more interesting ride! It’s natural selection in all it’s glory. Surely you being an honest uber cyclist can avoid everything thrown your way!!!
Use Bruce’s suggestion and buy devices that actually work!
If a rider on a training ride launches a bottle, I am certain “I” wont crash…but, it is idiotic to mount bottles where they may launch when you are on a group training ride. If some one launched a bottle and Tracy crashed on it (this almost happend this past Sunday), I would beat the fuck out of the rider - hands down, no question. If you have a cage that you KNOW will launch a bottle on a training ride and possibly take out your buddies…why would you still use it - on a training ride at that?
Don’t get me wrong, I also dislike bottles being launched off the back of a bike at me and think people need to take care of their stuff so it doesn’t endanger other people not to mention if your bottle holder is a bottle launcher then that nutrition won’t do you much good on the side of the road!!
However to suggest you are going to “beat the f@@k” out of someone for launching a bottle is beyond understanding. You would go to jail and suffer a lawsuit that would most likely result in you losing everything you owned just to attack someone because they launched a bottle at you? That seems very odd to me. If you are just joking then my bad, I don’t know you so maybe this is just you being funny. I certainly hope for your sake you are not serious.
