Help using 910xt for swim lap sets

I’ve started Dan’s 10-week swim “guppy” program. Not sure how to use my 910xt for getting the data right when I have a leave interval. I did the first 2 workouts on 2:00/100yds, and it’s a little slow, so I’m going to drop to 1:55.
On the display I am only showing lap time and lap distance. Bigger numbers are better for slightly foggy goggles, so just 2 fields seems best. I found a suggestion by DC Rainmaker to hit Pause, then Lap at the end of each, but if I want to do 6 X 100, leave on 1:55, as soon as I pause it, I what? Count in my head? What I’ve been doing is just hit the wall, look and see when I finish, and just hit Lap and go when it hits 1:55.
The issue is that you can’t edit splits in Garmin Connect, so my paces don’t save my actual swim splits, but just the entire interval. Maybe I just need to not care about that, and when I finish a set, and it’s too easy, I just know that next time I shorten my intervals?
Maybe I’m thinking too much like a runner by wanting to be able to see the times for each interval. Old school is just a huge clock with a big, red second hand, but is there a way to get the data the way I want it?

Pace clock on the wall, pencil and a small white board.

I hit “pause” and “lap” as you described, and use the big red hand for the rest timing.

Pace clock on the wall, pencil and a small white board.

No clock at my pool. Seriously. It’s at a 24 hour fitness (closest option).

Why do you press pause? I basically press lap when I start swimming and when I stop swimming to rest. If I swim on an interval then I’ll quickly have to calculate my rest time but usually that works out fine. Because of the lack of movement of the swim arm it all shows correctly on GC.

If you want to leave on 1:55, you set a training alert for 1:55. Press lap at both start & finish of lap. Leave when the alert sounds.

Press start - swim
Press lap when you finish the 100 - Look in the top right of the 4 screens (white on black) and you’ll see time elapsed
Press lap when that hits 1:55 and swim another 100
Press lap when you finish the 100 - repeat…
When you finish swimming, exit the pool and press stop.

When you upload you get swim time and rest interval - swim 1:50 rest 0:05…

Like this - https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/898916274 Click on Intervals to see what I mean (Yes I am a crappy swimmer :slight_smile: )

Press start - swim
Press lap when you finish the 100 - Look in the top right of the 4 screens (white on black) and you’ll see time elapsed
Press lap when that hits 1:55 and swim another 100
Press lap when you finish the 100 - repeat…
When you finish swimming, exit the pool and press stop.

When you upload you get swim time and rest interval - swim 1:50 rest 0:05…

Like this - https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/898916274 Click on Intervals to see what I mean (Yes I am a crappy swimmer :slight_smile: )
Here is my file. That last set was 6 X 100 on 2:00. I was finishing in about 1:40, and you can see in 2 of the laps it added a false extra 25yds. https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/908800195.
That is perfect and very helpful. Basically you’re saying to use another field as a replacement for the missing deck clock. Thanks so much. I like your way much better!

I hit “pause” and “lap” as you described, and use the big red hand for the rest timing.

I do same but just with my $30 Timex. I used to just use the pace clock, back in my pre-tri days when i was “just a swimmer”, but it is nice to have the watch remember my splits, rather me having to try to recall them later for the logbook.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/910603941
So I did modify the screens to show Elapsed Time, and that worked out pretty well. One “gotcha” I noticed is that, when I hit Lap, I get 10 seconds of the last lap summary blocking the screen. So I hit “lap” and then “mode” real fast, and it clears it right up.
I had to modify the Garmin activity, since it doesn’t catch my kicking, or the one-hand drills. But that’s a pretty small thing. I like that I can quickly look down the Interval list and see my paces (i.e. <1:40 for the pace during warm up, but 1:45 for the 500 yd MS).

Michael

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/910603941
So I did modify the screens to show Elapsed Time, and that worked out pretty well. One “gotcha” I noticed is that, when I hit Lap, I get 10 seconds of the last lap summary blocking the screen. So I hit “lap” and then “mode” real fast, and it clears it right up.
I had to modify the Garmin activity, since it doesn’t catch my kicking, or the one-hand drills. But that’s a pretty small thing. I like that I can quickly look down the Interval list and see my paces (i.e. <1:40 for the pace during warm up, but 1:45 for the 500 yd MS). Michael

So, are you saying you were under 1:40/100 in your warm-up but you went 1:45/100 for your main set??? If so, that’s kind of the reverse of what we normally try to do:)

Press start - swim
Press lap when you finish the 100 - Look in the top right of the 4 screens (white on black) and you’ll see time elapsed
Press lap when that hits 1:55 and swim another 100
Press lap when you finish the 100 - repeat…
When you finish swimming, exit the pool and press stop.

When you upload you get swim time and rest interval - swim 1:50 rest 0:05…

Like this - https://connect.garmin.com/...n/activity/898916274 Click on Intervals to see what I mean (Yes I am a crappy swimmer :slight_smile: )

He has the 910 not the 920, just hit lap for the 910.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/910603941
So I did modify the screens to show Elapsed Time, and that worked out pretty well. One “gotcha” I noticed is that, when I hit Lap, I get 10 seconds of the last lap summary blocking the screen. So I hit “lap” and then “mode” real fast, and it clears it right up.
I had to modify the Garmin activity, since it doesn’t catch my kicking, or the one-hand drills. But that’s a pretty small thing. I like that I can quickly look down the Interval list and see my paces (i.e. <1:40 for the pace during warm up, but 1:45 for the 500 yd MS). Michael

So, are you saying you were under 1:40/100 in your warm-up but you went 1:45/100 for your main set??? If so, that’s kind of the reverse of what we normally try to do:)

Absolutely true. I’m just getting back in the water after almost a year, and had a heart attack just 2 months ago. For the first few 100yds, I seem to just glide along without much effort, yet the time is better. Doing a longer effort, like the 500 in the set I linked, I’m still getting pretty tired. The EFFORT of the warm up was well below that of the MS. I’m being patient and not trying to dive into crazy effort at first. Getting in the water 3x/week is already a victory for me.
Looking at the intervals in the workout, hitting just Lap did the trick, and I added Elapsed Time field so I knew when the leave interval was up.

https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/910603941
So I did modify the screens to show Elapsed Time, and that worked out pretty well. One “gotcha” I noticed is that, when I hit Lap, I get 10 seconds of the last lap summary blocking the screen. So I hit “lap” and then “mode” real fast, and it clears it right up.
I had to modify the Garmin activity, since it doesn’t catch my kicking, or the one-hand drills. But that’s a pretty small thing. I like that I can quickly look down the Interval list and see my paces (i.e. <1:40 for the pace during warm up, but 1:45 for the 500 yd MS). Michael

So, are you saying you were under 1:40/100 in your warm-up but you went 1:45/100 for your main set??? If so, that’s kind of the reverse of what we normally try to do:)

Absolutely true. I’m just getting back in the water after almost a year, and had a heart attack just 2 months ago. For the first few 100yds, I seem to just glide along without much effort, yet the time is better. Doing a longer effort, like the 500 in the set I linked, I’m still getting pretty tired. The EFFORT of the warm up was well below that of the MS. I’m being patient and not trying to dive into crazy effort at first. Getting in the water 3x/week is already a victory for me.
Looking at the intervals in the workout, hitting just Lap did the trick, and I added Elapsed Time field so I knew when the leave interval was up.

Well, after almost a year off plus a heart attack (HA) 2 months ago, i can see how your endurance in the water is way down from normal. I’m glad you’ve recovered from the HA and are on your way back to excellent fitness. Good luck and post some updates on your HA recovery, perhaps in a separate thread; it would be interesting to follow your progression. Also, if you care to share them, it would be of interest to know the circumstances; while it sounds like you had been out of the water for 9-10 months before HA, were you running and biking a lot, e.g. were you in excellent shape and the HA just came out of nowhere???

Well, after almost a year off plus a heart attack (HA) 2 months ago, i can see how your endurance in the water is way down from normal. I’m glad you’ve recovered from the HA and are on your way back to excellent fitness. Good luck and post some updates on your HA recovery, perhaps in a separate thread; it would be interesting to follow your progression. Also, if you care to share them, it would be of interest to know the circumstances; while it sounds like you had been out of the water for 9-10 months before HA, were you running and biking a lot, e.g. were you in excellent shape and the HA just came out of nowhere???

While I won’t claim the best over-all lifestyle, I also didn’t cause the event. I had what’s called an arterial dissection. Part of the inner lining of one of the arteries (the LCA, if you care…) that feed the heart muscle fractured and created a partial blockage right at the main split point. Rare, seemingly random, and no way to predict it. By the way, Angiograms are super cool to watch when done on you. They inject some dye, and you get to see all the arteries light up. I have really great secondary circulation, and no real plaque (10%?), so there was a delay to part of the heart muscle, but no real blockage. Therefore, there was no real damage, they didn’t DO anything about it, like a stint, and I’m only on a training holding pattern for 6 months, then my cardiologist says I can train for Ironman if I want.
The symptoms were chest pressure, and it felt like I had some stomach gas. I figured it was just the spicy BBQ from dinner. Driving to a client in the morning, the pressure was still there and an acid taste in my month. Plus, I had numbness going down BOTH arms, mostly on the inner biceps and smallest 2-3 fingers. By noon I went in to get checked out. The EKG looked great, but blood results showed proteins that indicated I had had a HA. Off to ICU for 2 days, and a total stay of 4. Nurses kept having to adjust my machines because my resting pulse was so low. Cholesterol was 160, a little over-weight, but nothing crazy.
Now, they have me on a Statin, Beta Blocker, Aspirin and Anti-coagulant. Doctor says forever, but I’m getting a few other opinions. Last summer I was training about 5-8 hours/week, then sort of fell off. At the end of May, a car accident caused a herniated disc in L4-L5, and enough sciatic pain to make me unable to walk, THEN the HA hit. I had sold my bike this last Spring, but all this woke me up to getting back to what I love, and living more healthy. So on a separate thread I’m looking for advice on getting a new bike, but in the meantime, I’m swimming the Guppy plan, riding my cruiser with my wife, restarting CrossFit (garage gym with all the gear) and just starting to be able to jog/run again.
Bottom line: I didn’t DO anything wrong, but I am way more focused on living a healthy life again. And laying in the hospital, I remembered that an Ironman was a Bucket List thing, so I’m on a path to make that happen. (I’m 47, by the way)

Well, after almost a year off plus a heart attack (HA) 2 months ago, i can see how your endurance in the water is way down from normal. I’m glad you’ve recovered from the HA and are on your way back to excellent fitness. Good luck and post some updates on your HA recovery, perhaps in a separate thread; it would be interesting to follow your progression. Also, if you care to share them, it would be of interest to know the circumstances; while it sounds like you had been out of the water for 9-10 months before HA, were you running and biking a lot, e.g. were you in excellent shape and the HA just came out of nowhere???

While I won’t claim the best over-all lifestyle, I also didn’t cause the event. I had what’s called an arterial dissection. Part of the inner lining of one of the arteries (the LCA, if you care…) that feed the heart muscle fractured and created a partial blockage right at the main split point. Rare, seemingly random, and no way to predict it. By the way, Angiograms are super cool to watch when done on you. They inject some dye, and you get to see all the arteries light up. I have really great secondary circulation, and no real plaque (10%?), so there was a delay to part of the heart muscle, but no real blockage. Therefore, there was no real damage, they didn’t DO anything about it, like a stint, and I’m only on a training holding pattern for 6 months, then my cardiologist says I can train for Ironman if I want.
The symptoms were chest pressure, and it felt like I had some stomach gas. I figured it was just the spicy BBQ from dinner. Driving to a client in the morning, the pressure was still there and an acid taste in my month. Plus, I had numbness going down BOTH arms, mostly on the inner biceps and smallest 2-3 fingers. By noon I went in to get checked out. The EKG looked great, but blood results showed proteins that indicated I had had a HA. Off to ICU for 2 days, and a total stay of 4. Nurses kept having to adjust my machines because my resting pulse was so low. Cholesterol was 160, a little over-weight, but nothing crazy.
Now, they have me on a Statin, Beta Blocker, Aspirin and Anti-coagulant. Doctor says forever, but I’m getting a few other opinions. Last summer I was training about 5-8 hours/week, then sort of fell off. At the end of May, a car accident caused a herniated disc in L4-L5, and enough sciatic pain to make me unable to walk, THEN the HA hit. I had sold my bike this last Spring, but all this woke me up to getting back to what I love, and living more healthy. So on a separate thread I’m looking for advice on getting a new bike, but in the meantime, I’m swimming the Guppy plan, riding my cruiser with my wife, restarting CrossFit (garage gym with all the gear) and just starting to be able to jog/run again.
Bottom line: I didn’t DO anything wrong, but I am way more focused on living a healthy life again. And laying in the hospital, I remembered that an Ironman was a Bucket List thing, so I’m on a path to make that happen. (I’m 47, by the way)

Hmmm, well,it sounds like you just had some bad luck then. Glad you’re recovering and getting back into training. I saw your other thread on the new bike but have nothing to add since i’m no bike expert:)

Set up your screen to show “Last Lap Pace”. Works like a charm.