Help me use my new altitude tent!

On a complete impulse, I bid on an altitude tent on ebay, not expecting to win. Well, to my surprise and my wife’s surprise, I won! I must say, I have some major buyer’s remorse, but since I bought the damn thing, I thought I would give it a try. I went and read some of the research on altitude training, tents etc. (I am a Cardiologist by trade). I have to say, a lot of it was equivocal research.

Yet, I know lots of pros report using them. Do any of you have experience using an altitude tent? Was it effective? What protocols did you use? Did it interfere with your sleep and recovery? Did it seem to work?

Any comments are welcome. I am already prepared for all of the sarcastic jokes as I have been getting them from my wife for the past three days. Believe it or not though, she is willing to try it with me as it comes with a king size tent! (What a woman huh!)

Thanks in advance. Lyndon

Your post is troubling in so many ways. But I just wanted to say… Welcome to Slowtwitch!

What you are reading above is the reason that this country is in the credit crisis it’s in. Unfuckingbelievable.

What you are reading above is the reason that this country is in the credit crisis it’s in. Unfuckingbelievable.

not if he paid cash. :slight_smile:

Michael Jackson has one, it sounds like you have a lot in common.

What you are reading above is the reason that this country is in the credit crisis it’s in. Unfuckingbelievable.

not if he paid cash. :slight_smile:
That’s not necessarily true. His paycheck might be just enough to cover the cost of that tent.

Well he did say he was a Cardiologist. :slight_smile:

Some how I think I missed something. Sorry about the previous “helpful” responses. I’d try looking up Jack Daniels. He is a running coach who has done lots of altitude research. I suspect that a protocal for running will work the same for biking.

You might also want to research high altitude climbing sites. I would imagine that some climbers have used tents to pre acclimate to altitude.

Styrrell

I only know one Jack Daniels, and that man knows SHIT about running or biking! We hang out almost every weekend though… him, and my friend Popov, that is…

Having been a slowtwitch lurker and occassional poster for a long time, I fully expected to be made fun of, but I do find some of the comments a bit interesting. I have noticed over the years that there is a undercurrent of “haves” vs “have not” that has little to do with the topic being discussed. Since I spent the first 34 years of my life as a definite “have not” I am a little sensitive to these types of comments.

So, for my defensive response: I do make a good living. I do not spend much money on things besides triathlon (rent my house, drive a 2004 Ford Focus, don’t eat out much, etc.)
That said, I spend a lot of money on triathlon. Why? I enjoy it and overall, it is a small portion of my income. The gadgets, gizmos and gear are like a second childhood. If any of it makes my faster, that’s gravy!

When I park in the garage beside the never ending row of $50k vehicles (and not just in the doctors section), I think to myself “This is why we are in the credit crisis.” Therefore, if it bothers you that some people blow $1700 without really thinking about it, grow up, and welcome to America. What amazes me is how people spend tens of thousands of dollars and more on things like cars, houses, watches, clothes, etc AFTER they spent a lot of time thinking it through.

On another note, the reason I threw in there that I am a cardiologist is just to say that I did read the research on this stuff and I do realize that it may be all placebo. I have finished 11 ironmans, while completing my medical training and practicing cardiology with a PR of 9:45. So, I know it is all about hard work, etc, etc.

None of this changes the fact that my dumbass bought an altitude tent (yes, I do think it was stupid!) and so I might as well play around with it some before I try to sell it myself.

Having made my defense, I would ask again if anyone has actually used one of these things, and if so, what was your experience?

Lyndon

Do some searches on “Live High, Train Low.” You will find a lot of studies on this with some very good information.

Here are some Letsrun forums, with some great info. Some of these have links to studies. However, many great runners/coaches post in these threads. This is just a cut + paste from their training section.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?board=1&id=140248&thread=140248
http://www.sportsci.org/jour/9902/nbh.html
http://riceinfo.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/altitude.html
http://www.gssiweb.com/reflib/refs/18/d000000020000005a.cfm?pid=38
http://www.pfitzinger.com/labreports/altitude.shtml
http://users.compaqnet.be/cn000760/training-sche-effe-1a.html
http://www.runningonline.com/zine/Training/133.sht
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/91/3/1113

Highlights of the Third Annual International Altitude-Training Symposium
http://www.sportsci.org/jour/0001/pf.html

Altitude Training for Sea-Level Competition
http://www.sportsci.org/traintech/altitude/wgh.html

Altitude: Acclimatization to Intermediate Altitudes
http://www.sportsci.org/encyc/altitaccl/altitaccl.html

Good luck! I would assume phases would be best but I’m not sure. Sleeping with the tent would probably only give you a boost. However, in event of power outage how do these tents control air flow?

i have personal experience with an altitude tent. shoot me an email if you would like to discuss.

j_mac81@hotmail.com

jmac

Lyndon,
I’m no help with how to use it, but I did enjoy your retort to the “underprivileged” :wink:
I’m actually most impressed that you could get your wife to use it!
Good luck,
Dave

Thanks for the links and also thanks to the others who put themselves out there with some useful feedback. Even if it sucked, I wanted to hear from some people who had direct experience. Opinions I have plenty of and can usually generate myself pretty quickly! Experience or knowledge, are in general rare and more time consuming to aquire.

I will take a look at what I the links you posted and also take in the advice I got from several via PM. Once I formulate a plan, I will post it and then update people on the results as I go on my hypoxic journey!

hotbox the motherfucker
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Since I spent the first 34 years of my life as a definite “have not” I am a little sensitive to these types of comments.

You’re looking for this thread here: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=1566945

Go to Pubmed and look for information. I know there have been some review papers recently written on them. From what I recall, they don’t work very well for most people because they don’t simulate high enough altitudes and/or the athletes don’t spend enough time in them.

congrats on your past accomplishments! I think with altitude simulation you will only go even faster. One of my profs who is also the coach of Team Indiana Elite has done a numerous amount of studies on (real) altitude training and has seen Olympic Trials caliber athletes get 5-10 secs faster in a 5k as a result of 3-4 weeks of altitude training. That may not seem like a lot to some, however when you’re at the very pointy end of the arrow, any second of improvement is good stuff.

I bought a tent system about six months ago. My wife is a ballet dancer and I am a triathlete. We have enjoyed the tent tremendously. I have allergies and I find that sleeping in the filtered environment is almost a cure! I also had my best finish to date at an endurance cycling event two weeks ago. I also train with the mask system. Look at Colorado Altitude training website and you’ll note such names as Levi L. I know, he is a hack who is ruining our country. I can afford the system and I feel sorry for the losers who equate a few grand with credit. If you’ll stick with it, I think that you’ll love. My wife and I laugh about our new lifestyle all the time. She recently said that she could see us sleeping in the enclosure for the rest of our lives!!! By the way, you are a stud IM racer. Screw those jealous losers!

hotbox the motherfucker
Phelps now endorses CAT altitude tents.