I´m interested in purchase h3 wheelset, but I´m thinking between tubular or clincher. I know very good the clincher and tubular dilemma, but thats isn´t the purpose of this post. My question is between alu rim and carbon rim of tubulars h3. What´s the difference in wheight. I hate carbon brake pads!!!
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Slowtwitch has decided that weight doesn’t matter. As someone pointed out, the difference between different weight wheels is about 3 watts, whereas the difference in aero can be fifty watts at the right angles.
I’ve used both types. I actually liked the alum rim version better. not only for braking and brake pads, but the alum rim version seemed to track better for me. The full carbon version seemed to want to wander in the road. I didn’t like that feeling so I went back to the alum version. Since then though I’ve ditched all my tri spokes and ride nothing but deep rimmed spoked wheels in racing.
Thanks for your experience, how much is the weight difference between alu clincher and alu tubulars hed 3. The reasons because you abandoned hed 3 is the riding feeling?. My avg speed is 21 mph aprox, and I ride in coast zones with moderate cross winds. Based on hed information about stall angles, etc I think my best aero option is Hed3. Do you agree?
Do you experienced harsh ride with 3 spokes or its a myth?, I ride on good surfaces.
Regards
Milton
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My experiences were while I lived on the east coast of Florida. Good roads, flat and windy.
I didn’t like the wandering feeling. Not THAT much difference in weight. Braking is better with the alum rim. I don’t ride HED3’s any longer as the ride of a deep spoked wheel is much more comfortable and within a few seconds as fast. In fact I’ve found that the spoked wheels, for me, are faster as I don’t have the need to move around to stay comfortable like I did with the HED3’s. Therefore, overall, and most things considered, the spoked deep wheels, (ie HEd JET90, BW100, etc) are faster for me. I also average slightly faster then your 21, maybe 22-24 in most of my races. Sprint and Oly. I no longer do the longer stuff.
Not sure about weight difference but the details are on the hed web site.
I have the Aluminium H3 clinchers and love them. Have had them for about 2 years. They are fast wheels and as they are tough you can train on them and get used to them in the wind. I’ve raced them in very high winds and they’ve been fine but you do need to get used to them. I’ve also ridden stingers 90r/60f and I definitely prefer my Hed 3s as overall they seem faster, especially once you are doing 25mph+. Also, I think its a major advantage being able ot use clinchers and letex tubes compared to running tubulars. Finally, I couldn’t notice any difference in comfort between the stingers and hed 3s and I ride on rough roads.
My training buddy had stinger 90/60s and the carbon rims wore out really quickly. He then got a Zipp disc and 1080 front which I would say is very slightly faster than my hed3s in headwinds, but not by much.
Cheers
I am looking to get a set as well and was wondering if you guys know of anything other than cracks or defects on the carbon that I should be looking for?
The H3 tubulars are 670/820g. The clinchers are 820/1030g.
Total difference of 360g.
yeah, this weight is specified in hed website. you think the tubulars of 1490 gr. are the alu rimmed or the full carbon rimmed?
regards
That weight is full carbon. The alloy rim cap on the tubulars would probably be the same weight as the clinchers.
x3 the The Hed 3 is not only super fast it falt out feels faster, I have a jet 60/90 combo and bought some clincher 3’s they are awesome, down side is they are skinny and even at 180 lbs I got oved about a bit but it does make the ride more interesting. Weight between the tub or the clincher, so little it does not matter
thank you for your opinion enjoy hed 3!!!
x3 the The Hed 3 is not only super fast it falt out feels faster, I have a jet 60/90 combo and bought some clincher 3’s they are awesome, down side is they are skinny and even at 180 lbs I got oved about a bit but it does make the ride more interesting. Weight between the tub or the clincher, so little it does not matter
When I asked HED last week about the weight limits for the riders I was told 250lbs for the Aluminum and 210lbs for the carbon.
This weight limit says about their durability!!!