Hate the Shiv low stack kit (got it due to the recall...) recommend me something else?

This low stack kit isn’t working for me at all. Thanks Spesh! I need to spend my own money to fix your mistake.

I need bars that are angle adjustable. I thought so too, and fitter confirmed it recently. Need to tweak them angled upwards by a few degrees. Or I get neck pains and shoulder strain.

I was out last season following a nasty crash. First HIM race this season taught me that this low stack front end is not going to work.

I’d rather keep the basebar and replace just the extensions with angle adjustable extensions. If that isn’t possible, then option 2 recommend me a whole new front end. This is the nosecone Shiv so that may further limit the options.

(I wish I kept the recalled bars and just replaced that bolt that’d shear with a titanium bolt. That would have worked, no?)

My guy threw on some Profile Design bars after the whole recall. He said too many people coming in for the recall couldn’t fit the low stack kit without deviating from their professional fittings. Me included.

Not only does the low stack kit suck, but they are still advertising their carbon bars as ±15 degree adjustable on their product website:

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/components/carbon-aerobar-with-aero-stem/105033

I posted here about a month ago about a fiasco I had with them and my LBS, because I bought the aerobars thinking I could have that angle adjustment. Specialized ended up NOT taking back the bars and my LBS ate the cost.

I have notified Specialized that they are falsely advertising but they are still happy to take people’s money without disclosing this, apparently.

(I wish I kept the recalled bars and just replaced that bolt that’d shear with a titanium bolt. That would have worked, no?)

I doubt it, I am not aware of a Ti fastener that is stronger than the best steel bolts for a given size in shear.

Not only does the low stack kit suck, but they are still advertising their carbon bars as ±15 degree adjustable on their product website:

https://www.specialized.com/...ith-aero-stem/105033

I posted here about a month ago about a fiasco I had with them and my LBS, because I bought the aerobars thinking I could have that angle adjustment. Specialized ended up NOT taking back the bars and my LBS ate the cost.

I have notified Specialized that they are falsely advertising but they are still happy to take people’s money without disclosing this, apparently.

Really?! I was surprised when I saw that cockpit on their site earlier. Assumed they fixed the underlying issue sometime after they gave all of us the low stack kit, and re-released that cockpit. You are saying that front end isn’t adjustable? Wow. It’s been over a year. How can they not update the product info in over a year? It isn’t like they have 300 million items for sale like Amazon.

Edit: so what do I do? Replace the entire front end and get rid of the nosecone? That will be expensive. It isn’t the money though. It’s the principle. None of this is my fault. That shitty front end was given to me sight unseen when I took the bike in for a recall.

Really?! I was surprised when I saw that cockpit on their site earlier. Assumed they fixed the underlying issue sometime after they gave all of us the low stack kit, and re-released that cockpit. You are saying that front end isn’t adjustable? Wow. It’s been over a year. How can they not update the product info in over a year? It isn’t like they have 300 million items for sale like Amazon.

Edit: so what do I do? Replace the entire front end and get rid of the nosecone? That will be expensive. It isn’t the money though. It’s the principle. None of this is my fault. That shitty front end was given to me sight unseen when I took the bike in for a recall.

Yep - they shipped it to my LBS with the low stack kit and no adjustable extension clamps. When I inquired they replied that the adjustable clamps had been phased out with the recall, with no other explanation. The product page still has the ±15 degree advertised and the picture still shows the adjustable clamps, as well!!

Some real geniuses working at Specialized… if it wasn’t for my awesome LBS I would be out $600+

Not sure what else I can do really besides tell everyone how crappy their sales & marketing team is.

Edit: Just saw your edit. I honestly don’t know what to do, either. I feel bad for my LBS having to eat the cost and I think Specialized should fix it. But besides complaining about it on this forum I feel like any other action I could take might ring hollow.

(I wish I kept the recalled bars and just replaced that bolt that’d shear with a titanium bolt. That would have worked, no?)

I doubt it, I am not aware of a Ti fastener that is stronger than the best steel bolts for a given size in shear.

Ti is about 60% the strength of steel (depending on the alloy of each). In a case where the part dimensions are predetermined (like a bolt), steel will be much stronger.

One option with the old (pre-recall) bars would have been to set the tilt angle and then TIG weld the aluminum brackets in place.

What angle are you looking for? Beveled washers might be an option.

https://img1.fastenal.com/productimages/0172470_hr4c.jpg

Since the extensions are ski bend, you might only have to angle the pads vs. the whole low stack assembly.

What angle are you looking for? Beveled washers might be an option.

https://img1.fastenal.com/productimages/0172470_hr4c.jpg
That’s not a bad idea. I could 3d print some washers until I find the right angle, then get metals washers made. This will probably need to be a custom job because of how the extensions fit onto the basebar. IDEA! Box of front end accessories includes spacers of various lengths. I could take the thinnest spacers and machine them into an angle. Maybe.

Not buying a proprietary front end ever again! Or anything else proprietary.

You can 3D print plastic for testing, and then print metal for the final version.

You need two washers for each bolt: one for the angle, and one so that the bolt head sits flush.

Not sure how much of an angle the holes in the bar will accommodate.

FWIW, to replicate my position the shop had to swap out the cockpit and I chose a Profile Ozero basebar and Zipp Vuka Alumina bars (Spech approved and paid for it all). My issue was pad setback (not tilt). I still can’t believe they just defaulted to the low stack kit vs. coming up with a longer term, non-hack fix. It made sense during the recall, but not now.

You can 3D print plastic for testing, and then print metal for the final version.

You need two washers for each bolt: one for the angle, and one so that the bolt head sits flush.

Yep.

Not sure how much of an angle the holes in the bar will accommodate.

I know I’ve been thinking about that. All I need is a few degrees. Maybe 5? Not sure.

FWIW, to replicate my position the shop had to swap out the cockpit and I chose a Profile Ozero basebar and Zipp Vuka Alumina bars (Spech approved and paid for it all). My issue was pad setback (not tilt). I still can’t believe they just defaulted to the low stack kit vs. coming up with a longer term, non-hack fix. It made sense during the recall, but not now.

I’ve heard they paid for 3rd party cockpits in March/April last year. They won’t do it now. I crashed in May last year and didn’t ride this bike much last year.

If you just want 5^ you might just print an angled sheet you can place in the armrests under the pads.

The TriRig and Drag2Zero extensions will allow you to raise your hands about as much as you would want. Shim under the arm cups and try some CeeGee pads (phonetically spelled). These pads are really comfy and deform well.

Keep th stem. It probably saves 2+ watts over a standard one