Or any major 140.6???
2 x at Lake Placid, make AG have had the fastest overall times. 2005 and 2007.
Do they get pro prize $ ??
no pro mens divisions those years. so, nope!
Then i dunno if i would xount that, i was kinda thinking of an ag beating a pro field
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sorry, was just answering the question as posted.
Pretty sure Steve Larsen won Wildflower as an Ager, and got the Pro money. Not an IM but just as competitive. He really should have been a Pro and I believe he wanted race Pro but they wouldn’t let him. This is all from memory though.
Styrrell
Larsen sounds right…
From my understanding if an AGer wins overall, they just win their AG and what ever comes with that, and some races do have overall, non-pro prizes. As for the pro purse, that is for the pros, and a lot of it has to do with the drug testing, etc…
When you look at the results of the races, often male and female AGers will be in the mix of the over all rank, but they do not get those lower pro prizes… so if they do not get the money for finishing 5th overall, what should it matter if they finish first?
Larsen sounds right…
Larsen was 4th
Yep, I think it may have been the 2001 half vineman, but damn it he won something ;-).
Styrrell
Well there were some races without a Pro Men’s start, so yes.
In the first few years Ironman (Kona and Oahu) there were no pros or prize money—if that counts. So there were several winners that were age groupers but not pros. Gordan Haller, Tom Warren, Dave Scott, Scott Tinley, and John Howard. Doubt that is what you were looking for though.
WTC should introduce the same kind of thing that exists in golf - if you’re an amateur and you win a tournament you can take all the prize money providing you relinquish your amateur status and turn pro. I think it’s a nice rule.
Frank Vytrisal got 2000$ for being third in Frankfurt 2005.
The article is in German. It is called the age grouper that teaches the pros how to fear. At least I hope that makes sense in English. At that time he was a teacher in the Frankfurt area.
http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30906/triathlon-wie-ein-amateur-die-profis-das-fuerchten-lehrt-30172421.html
Frank Vytrisal got 2000$ for being third in Frankfurt 2005.
The article is in German. It is called the age grouper that teaches the pros how to fear. At least I hope that makes sense in English. At that time he was a teacher in the Frankfurt area.http://www.faz.net/…-lehrt-30172421.html
Still, Frank was a registered Pro at the time even though he worked full time as a teacher as far as I remember.
I positively remember IM UK 2006 where Belgian AG athlete Jim Beuselinck led the race until he blew up at km ~30 of the marathon. He came in 3rd overall but was neither given prize money nor called when they presented the Top 10 on stage.
The same thing happened @IM UK in 2008 when a few age groupers including me were faster than the top 10 pros. Thus 12th place overall grabbed prize money for 10th pro. On the other hand I got the Kona slot & he did not. 
WTC should introduce the same kind of thing that exists in golf - if you’re an amateur and you win a tournament you can take all the prize money providing you relinquish your amateur status and turn pro. I think it’s a nice rule.
can’t do that with wave starts though.
why not? In golf it’s also flights of 3-4?
WTC should introduce the same kind of thing that exists in golf - if you’re an amateur and you win a tournament you can take all the prize money providing you relinquish your amateur status and turn pro. I think it’s a nice rule.
can’t do that with wave starts though.
Didn’t this happen at a major marathon a few years ago? An AG woman won the women’s race overall, but started in a later wave and the pro’s complained because they didn’t know she was there and couldn’t race against her. If I remember correctly the RD refused to list her as the winner and gave the award and money to the winning pro. Might be remembering it wrong, though.
In the SF Women’s Marathon, an amateur beat out all the Pro/Elite field for the race a few years ago. No prize money, but they did recognize her as the winner of the race.
Its more that there are two races being run at the same time. One race for money, the other for amateurs. With money on the line, its a bit unfair to have to race against the clock as well as against others who started at the same time.
On the flip side, I hate the 70.3 races that have multiple wave times for my AG (30-34). Having to dig deep to make sure someone in the wave ahead or behind doesn’t “virtually” pass me gives motivation to push until the finish. For someone looking for a place and a paycheck I don’t think they deserve the additional factor on race day.