General Abizaid

is the CINC of CENTCOM. He is a very well educated man including a Master of Arts degree in Area Studies at Harvard University, and was an Olmsted Scholar at the University of Jordan in Amman, Jordan. He is arguably one of the best and brightest in our country on all things Middle East. He speaks fluent Arabic. Recently he made a speech at the War College in Carlisle Barracks, PA. Thought I would share a summary of his thoughts.

He is amazed as he goes around the country and testifies before the Congress how many of our countrymen do not know or understand what we are doing or how we are doing. There are very few members of Congress who have ever worn the uniform (of our armed forces). He said that the questions he gets from some in Congress convince him that they have the idea that we are about to pushed out of Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no relation between this and the reality on the ground.

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As he goes around the region and talks to troops and junior officer he is very impressed by their morale and their achievements. They are confident that they are capable of defeating the enemy. You will never see a headline in this country about a school opening or a power station being built and coming on line, or a community doing well. Only the negative things will get coverage in the media. He told the mid-grade/senior officers to go to their local Lions Clubs when they go home and tell the people what they are doing. If they don’t get the word out, the American people will not know what is really happening. The insurgency is in four of 18 provinces in Iraq, not all 18. You do not hear about the 14 provinces where there is no insurgency and where things are going well. The insurgency in Afghanistan is primarily in Kandahar province (home of the Taliban) and in the mountain region on the Pakistani border. The rest of the country is doing well.

Iraq now has over 200,000 soldiers/police under arms and growing. They are starting to eclipse the US/coalition forces. Their casualty rate is more than double that of the US. There are more than 70,000 soldiers under the moderate government in Afghanistan and growing. He predicted that the insurgencies in the four Sunni provinces in northern/central Iraq and in Southwestern Afghanistan will be there for the foreseeable future, but they will be stabilized and become small enough so the moderate governments will be able to keep them under control.

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*2006 will be a transition year in Iraq and that will see the Iraqi forces take much more of the mission from the US forces. This is necessary to bring stability to Iraq. We need to be fewer in numbers and less in the midst of the people for the moderate Iraqi government to succeed. Our primary enemy is not the insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is Al Qaida and their ideology. We are at a period now that is similar to the 1920s where Communism and Nazism had not taken hold in Russia and Germany. The ideology of Al Qaida is out there and it has not taken hold in any country in the Middle East. We need to make sure that it does not and we are doing that, but it will be a long problem with a long commitment. *

He said that we are focused on the things that we (Americans) have done wrong, like Abu Ghraib, and not talking about this enemy. We need to talk about this enemy. Al Qaida is all over the world. Their goal is to get the US out of the region and come to power in the Islamic countries of the region. From there their goal is to establish a Caliphate (under a single Islamic ruler) that goes from the Atlantic in North Africa to Indonesia in the Pacific. Fifty years after this happens their goal is to rule the rest of the world. Since Desert Storm in 1991 US forces have not lost any combat engagement in the region at the platoon level or above. Al Qaida has no beliefs that they can defeat us militarily. They see our center of gravity as being the will of the American People. That is influenced by the media and they are playing to that. They don’t need to win any battles. Their plan is keep the casualties in front of the American people in the media for long enough that we become convinced that we can not win and leave the region. This would be tragic for our country. The battle against Al Qaida will not be primarily military. It will be political, economic, and ideological. It will require the international community to fight too. We must not let Al Qaida get hold in any country. It will result in our worst nightmare. Picture life in Afghanistan under the Taliban, that is what Al Qaida’s ideology has as a goal.

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If you look at the geography (of Al Qaida) there is no place to put a military solution. They are networked and they are all over the world. They are a virtual organization connected by the internet. They use it to proselytize, recruit, raise money, educate and organize. They have many pieces that we must focus on: the propaganda battle in the media, safe houses, front companies, sympathetic members of legitimate governments, human capital, fighters and leaders, technical expertise, weapons suppliers ideologically sympathetic non-government organizations (charities), financers, smugglers, and facilitators. A lot of their money comes from drugs.

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We are winning but we have got to maintain constant pressure over time with the international community and across the US government agencies. No one is afraid that we can’t defeat the enemy. Our troops have the confidence, the courage, and the competence. We need the will of the American people to be sustained for the long haul.

Thanks for posting this armytriguy…I had a similar experience this past weekend. Listend to a very, very senior Admiral talk…I asked him point blank how we were doing really…Got a similar response (I know everybody, he IS in the military after all)…However, what is more telling is the willingness for people who have been deployed already to Iraq, to return as soon as they can and help the rebuilding and such.

I am in uniform so peole like those on this forum can have the freedom to express their opinions and displeasure, with, well, pretty much anything (it seems like a lot of people just hate everything)…However, as I suspected, Joe Q Publilc isn’t getting the whole picture, and are basing most of their opinions on media reports. By the way, the information is freely available, but for some reason the general media can’t find it…Hmmmmmm.

Iraq is just part of a much bigger picture.

People really want to do something besides bitch…Try taking some of your personal time and energy and visit an elementry or high school and present an anti-drug presentation…WHY? Because you might want to explain to our children that by consuming drugs, they are in the end fueling the terror engine, that in the end is trying to destroy their future.

People really want to do something besides bitch…Try taking some of your personal time and energy and visit an elementry or high school and present an anti-drug presentation…WHY? Because you might want to explain to our children that by consuming drugs, they are in the end fueling the terror engine, that in the end is trying to destroy their future.

Great idea. An even better one would be to go visit some new car showrooms and do an anti-gas guzzler presentation, because you might want to explain to our adults that by consuming gasoline, they are in the end fueling the terror engine, that in the end is trying to destroy the future of their children.

(aside: did you know that studies indicate that DARE has no lasting effect on drug usage by children as they get older?)

And, Ken, that’s a great point, great point. Why don’t we do that? We’re all guilty…So, why doesn’t each person take responsibility for their own actions, then their families, then try to extend outside their household? Posting on the internet to a very, very confined group doesn’t seem like it’s working.

I know you share many different views … And I appreciate that … It does help me to always look at the other side and question … As I did of the Admiral on Saturday.

**Great idea. An even better one would be to go visit some new car showrooms and do an anti-gas guzzler presentation, because you might want to explain to our adults that by consuming gasoline, they are in the end fueling the terror engine, that in the end is trying to destroy the future of their children. **


Since you hijacked the thread (again). You are just as much part of the problem by driving your little car. Either you quit driving all together or quit complaining. Just because your car doesn’t burn as much or pollute as much you are still part of the problem.

(aside: did you know that studies indicate that DARE has no lasting effect on drug usage by children as they get older?)

So I guess we just stop the program all together. Even if one kid chooses not to use drugs then the program is worth it.

Now if you want to start another thread please do so but I really wanted to stay on topic with the good generals comments.

**Great idea. An even better one would be to go visit some new car showrooms and do an anti-gas guzzler presentation, because you might want to explain to our adults that by consuming gasoline, they are in the end fueling the terror engine, that in the end is trying to destroy the future of their children. **


Since you hijacked the thread (again). You are just as much part of the problem by driving your little car. Either you quit driving all together or quit complaining. Just because your car doesn’t burn as much or pollute as much you are still part of the problem.

(aside: did you know that studies indicate that DARE has no lasting effect on drug usage by children as they get older?)

So I guess we just stop the program all together. Even if one kid chooses not to use drugs then the program is worth it.

Now if you want to start another thread please do so but I really wanted to stay on topic with the good generals comments.

Let me get this straight: you post a lengthy article whose sole reference to drugs is the sentence “A lot of their money comes from drugs”, to which TriPA comments (in addition to what I gather you’d consider to be on-topic stuff) that we should educate our children about this, to which in turn I comment that we should educate our adults about the fact that our gasoline money is funding terrorism, and you think that I hijacked the thread?

What’s the opportunity cost of DARE? Where else could we be spending the money that would have a greater benefit? To keep this “on-topic”, since Gen. Abizaid tied drugs to terrorism:

"The most exhaustive and authoritative study to date on the effectiveness of D.A.R.E. was done by the Research Triangle Institute, North Carolina, at the behest of the U.S. Department of Justice, entitled “Past and Future Directions of the D.A.R.E. Program, September, 1994.”(338k) It was first reported in the national press by USA Today. The reported concluded: “The D.A.R.E. program’s limited effect on adolesent drug use contrasts with the program’s popularity and prevalence. An important implication is that D.A.R.E. could be taking the place of other, more beneficial drug education programs that kids could be receiving.”

For a summary of the report, see “How Effective is D.A.R.E.?,” American Journal of Public Health, September 1994, p. 1399." (http://drcnet.org/DARE/section5.html)

So, yes, we should drop the program.

My apologies. I did not see the comment/response from TriPa.

edit. You did not answer my comment on if you are driving you are still part of the problem.

Sorry to get you in trouble…The article mentioned drugs…My Admiral mentioned drugs…So I commented on drugs.

Not really a shot at you Casey, but have you ever stopped to think that basing your policy proposals on a long list of all the things America and Americans can’t do will inspire no one and elect no one?

What person in their right mind would prefer to follow Howard Dean rather than Gen Abizaid?

I would rather follow Abizaid somewhere I didn’t want to go than Dean somewhere I did want to go.

Maybe that is just me, but looking at recent election returns, maybe not.

Casey, you points are taken, just like those already…But, drug use and sales is an illegal activity, driving a car isn’t.

But, drug use and sales is an illegal activity, driving a car isn’t

No one is more against drug use than me but I just think it’s kind of odd to link drug use to the war on terror. Drugs are devastating. My wife works in a shelter where drug use is rampant and I can tell you not a single one there would have stopped drugs because of the war on terror. It’s just wishful thinking and a waste of time.

The recovery home has had some success by working with these girls and sheltering them from family/friends for a full year to stop the bad influences in their lives, and even then, the success rate is about 15%. If we think that telling kids/adults to stop taking drugs because we are supporting Al Qaeda, is going to stop/slow terrorist attacks, we are deluding ourselves with more things that make us feel good because we think we’re doing something.

We already have enough of feeling good about ourselves without actually doing anything that we don’t need more whitewashing. It’s getting to the point where we are afraid of telling the truth out of hurting people’s feelings.