Few years ago I had a FB…it was crap, hated it - bounced, moved, twisted…ran 19 today with one…the new ones ROCK, I did not notice it was there but for when I wanted more Powerbar mix stuff…The folks at Fuel Belt have perfected their system…if you have had one (and like me hated it) try out one of the new ones for your long training runs.
19 miles! Congrats!
As far as belts go, you really should try the Amphipod belts - better in almost every way.
Thanks…I was supposed to run 22 though…damn hills…oh, and cant forget the crazy…he is another post…
JRA (just running allong) black dude homeless buy the looks of him - he is wearing weeks old dirty clothing and riding a Jamis mountain bike…I for one am never quick to judge the homless as many of you know I was homeless for a couple years. I ran my run and at about mile 15 I met up with Tracy and two of her friends who are all traning for Chicago Marathon…I decide to drop off the back a bit and run with one of the girls who is tired and not able to keep the pace of the other two. We are just chatting in the downtown area and plodding allong at about a 8:00 pace. Tracy and her friend are about 300 yards ahead and go around a corner at a building. As I and the girl I am running with go around the corner there is an angry and as described homeless looking black man pointing at an obviouly terrified Tracy and proclaiming that he can shoot her in the forhead…she and her friend try to keep running. He looks at me and the girl I am running with and yells that he has enough bullets for all of us. So…as you all can imagine (or maybe cant)…I am not one to run. I instantly get in the guys face (he is still over his bike) and tell him “get the fucking gun you worthless piece of human shit, but you had better get me with the first shot fucker” - and shoved him off the bike…he and a backpack he had fell to the ground in the middle of the road. He shot off of the ground in an instant and said that he was going to beat me, and that we would both “get charges” He was spouting off about “charges”. I was not sure at the time what he was meaning and now it is clear to me that he was referring to legal charges. Tracy and the other girls were yelling at me to just run away and get out of there…I slowly walked backwards away from him and told the girls to run (they of course didnt listen). When I was about 300 yards away and the girls much further…I turned and ran to the girls…who were all MAD at me for saying or doing anything…jesus…I dont get women.
Something in me was moved today…something I have never felt before. A man made Tracy feel fear…that will not stand. I would have with out question died today to protect her if infact he did have a gun as he claimed he did. For no reason at all he started to yell at them…they claim he is “sick or on drugs”…no matter to me. ANYONE suggests they will harm her…they have to make it past me…I dont care who they are.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing. This is the first time that Tracy has been mad at me for something that I did not, and will not say sorry for.
how do you get yourself in these situations?
i would be seriously pissed at you too, because that is all about ego. you got to know when to fold 'em, and so what he yelled at her. running away got her out of the situation. in my eyes you put yourself in unnecessary harm and caused her unnecessary stress–as she was begging you to run away, you didn’t, and you could have been stabbed, or actually shot to death. If this would have happenedh she would have to live with that (when in reality, you could have just run on by probably with no trouble, other than getting yelled at).
So, while you think you’re being self less by defending her that way, it was actually selfish, because she didn’t want you to do that, begged you not to, and you insisted in putting yourself in a much more compromising position. if you had gotten stabbed or died, where would that have left her?
you’ve got to understand that what you did was much more terrifying to her then getting yelled at by a bum. what you did scared her, and i would be beyond pissed if my husband did something like that. when somebody ain’t wrapped too tight (like the bum), it doesn’t take long for a situation to come to blows.
honestly, if you want to smooth this over, you’ve got to think about seeing this from her angle, rather than your own. and apologize…alot.
No offense, but you’re an idiot. Why go around looking for trouble? You were one loaded gun from being 6 foot under. Absolutely stupid.
Way to go! Maybe next time he will think before harassing the next group that trundles by. He is “sick on drugs” because he chooses to ingest them…no one is holding a gun to his head…or maybe that is the gun he is talking about.
You are a human man and we (as all homo sapiens do) have an innate flight or fight response and no one should shame you into thinking that the fight response is idiotic or moronic or whatever. Sometimes you have to be a man…maybe women don’t get that (oh boy, here we go!).
I’m on the job and the only charges I’d put on anyone would be on the homeless guy for harassment, lock him up, and hoped he didn’t take a crap in the back of my car. Well, I might have to lock you up for calling eight-minute miles a slow training run!
BTW…homeless guys don’t pack heat…they just fling poo! Okay, they might have a knife but if you keep a tactical distance (at least 21 feet) I don’t know many grounders that can run cruise intervals.
Congratulations.
Instead of calling the police/getting this man (who is clearly mentally disturbed) some medical/psych attention, you took it upon yourself to endanger the lives of your friends. Endangering your own life is your choice so I won’t comment on that, but since you posted this on a public forum and seem to be looking for opinions on your actions I believe you better check your own mental status out as well as the “black guy’s”.
It’s people like you who escalate little situations into double homocides.
19 miles.
“plodding” at 8:00 pace.
GFT not for another 54 days.
Damn, junior.
After you finish GFT, please go to the store and procure some very cold beer for when I finish 3 hours later.
Exactly. Homless guys dont have guns (they check at the shelters too)…and IF he did infact have a gun, let there be no question it would have been out. No way in hell I keep running when a man is telling Tracy that he is going to shoot her (unprovoked at that). AND…never turn your back to a threat.
You reacted on instinct. You put the aggressor on his ass. No harm, case closed. Good job. No need to second guess at this point.
Gotta side with Chip on this one KC. While it was possibly foolish, what it would have left Tracy, is alive. You can’t run away from a bullet, it seems to have a slight speed advantage. While putting himself at extreme risk, he gave the others time to escape (time they foolishly pissed away). If you threatan my wife or family, you’d better be prepared to die. Seems Chip feels the same way.
J
Does the fuel belt ROCK? Or does it RAWK?
Ya done good
somebody pulls that kind of a threat you don’t give them a chance to execute it
none of this PC “oh the poor homeless guy” crap. Take him down and neutralize the potential threat…you and your friends come first. I’m glad you took a stand.
What Kitty said.
B
It’s people like you who escalate little situations into double homocides
WHat is a Homocide?
murder of a homo?
I don’t see why you all couldn’t have just kept running. The vast majority of homeless people have mental disorders. There is no possible outocme of such a confrontation that is good for you, and you have much more to lose. That is not liberal namby pamby, that is straight Art of War.
There are hills in Illinois?
The truth is, most of us simply don’t have a choice in situations like these. It has nothing to do with stupidity or arrogance, bravery or cowardice. It is just the way you’re wired. You are never prepared for violent confrontations and when they suddenly hit, your natural instincts control. Fight or flight is instictive and immediate. It is neither rational nor deliberate. It just happens.
I have three levels of decision making in these situations: (1) instictive reaction, (2) emotional response, (3) philosophical thought. Instinct is what happens at the moment of confrontation; emotional response is what happens immediately after the confrontation; and philosophical thought is what happens after my emotions and adrenaline have dissipated. I wish that I always had the time and the ability to reason at the third level. But I don’t. Sometimes, when confronted with a dangerous threat to your own safety or to the safety of others, all you have is instinct. Its easy to sit at your computer screen and wax philosophically about what Record “should” have done. You have that luxury. All Record had was instict. And his instict was to neutralize the threat.
I say, way to go.