Folks in MI, let me know if you find a big ol’ jet engine in your backyard or maybe during one of your training rides/runs. People are looking for it, and even if it is all twisted and charred, who knows, they might try to fix it and put it back on an airplane.
Where 'bouts - I am 76 miles due east of Milwaukee
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They say somewhere in the southern 1/3rd of the state.
Scary. which airline lost the engine?
Umm, What is this all about?
Ummmm, I found something that resembled that last night on my section of land. This AM I mounted the thing on my Litespeed and am hoping to improve my bike splits in 2005.
Seriously though, I’m in the Chicago pattern coming from the East Coast. Its a good thing that that thing didn’t land on my house.
I’ll bet the pilots had a bit of a time managing the Yaw rate when they dropped it. What did it come from?
Tom- don’t you check the news. Time for a third computer.
1- Computrainer
2-Slowtwitch
3-Outside world
Check http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0410220373oct22,1,7968876.story
I’m getting some info about a guy who was found dead in an ariliner wheel well from the Dominican Republic and nothing about an aircraft losing an engine.
My fault, wrong link.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ny-bc-ny--lostengine1021oct21,1,6362951.story
The engine fell off a Kalitta Air cargo flight Wednesday night. They were flying from China to NYC and had just made a stop in Chicago. The last news report I saw said the engine is most likely at the bottom of Lake Michigan.
I found it amusing, A) that they lost an entire engine (I’m sick, I know) and b) that they chose to land at Metro instead of 5 miles away at their home airport, Willow Run. I guess someone was afraid to face the boss . . . . .
"I found it amusing…b) that they chose to land at Metro instead of 5 miles away at their home airport, Willow Run. I guess someone was afraid to face the boss . . . . . "
Where would you rather have an emergency landing - Willow Run or Detroit Metro? I’d guess Detroit Metro is probably more equipped for such situations…
If I was a pilot (I’m not) and I had an entire engine fall off my plane while in flight, I’d land at the airport with the best upholstery cleaning service.
That’s huge.
“I found it amusing, A) that they lost an entire engine (I’m sick, I know)”
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- Not meant as an attack but Flight 191 lost an engine on takeoff in 1979 and 271 people died, because the engine took the left wing hydraulics with it, resulting in the left wing stalling and dropping, causing the plane to roll out of control and slam into the ground a short distance from the end of the runway.
“they chose to land at Metro instead of 5 miles away at their home airport, Willow Run.”
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- Two factors relating to safety: First is length of runway, second is surrounding profile. You want to land a partially disabled plane as slow and flat as possible and on the longest runway you can find.
kalamazoo airport could have taken them in an emergency. 110 miles closer than metro.
The difference between laughing and crying is often just a whisker. I actually was in a passenger in a small plane that lost its engine (lost as in “stopped running”, not “fell off”). We landed in a field. As I recall the pilot’s explaination was that there was a lake between us and the nearest airport and he was only about 90% sure he could clear the lake on a glide. Had I been asked, I would have voted for the field too but as it was my brain stopped with the propeler so I would have been useless in that brief discussion.
Everything was fine and once we got out we had a big laugh. Wouldn’t have taken much for it to have been very different though . . . . .
That’s pretty good.
Yes, when engines fall off airplanes, sometimes they take importants parts off with them–like parts of the wing. Kalitta is a carrier that is notorious for terrible maintenance: old, ragged airplanes flying around full of inoperative items.
As for yaw, luckily, a 4-engine airplane with an engine out is far more controllable than a 2-engine plane with an engine out. However, this 747-100 lost the #1 engine (the far right one, as seen from a person looking at the nose of the plane) which is one of the worst to lose on this type of plane. Here is a photo of this sad bucket of bolts after its exciting night:
I would have picked Battle Creek. Its a former SAC base and continues as an ANG base (110th Fighter). Also, when the president comes to town, AF1 uses that airport. Further, the Concorde brought a group of British Airway Cadets to town for training at the WMU flight school a few years ago. Battle Creek is where they landed.
“The difference between laughing and crying is often just a whisker.”
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- Amen, several close calls in my life. Two of them were too close for comfort. First one was that I had a ticket for Flight 191 and got hung up in a meeting!
Second was blown front landing gear. Interesting how hard it is for the captain to steer the plain when the front gear collapses.
“Everything was fine and once we got out we had a big laugh. Wouldn’t have taken much for it to have been very different though . . . . .”
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- That second one was like that. It was Midway Airlines (some years back) and they were the only non-union outfit in the midwest at the time. Their flight attendants were all brand new, and none had ever been through an emergency landing. Several of them and some of us passengers went on a nasty bender that night!